Pellegrini Confirmed as West Ham Manager (22.05.18) - already (September) there are doubters

OldCastleSwift

grey_til_I_dye said:

What have you got in the transfer kitty, my precious?

Gandolf and Bilbo discuss the Desolation of the Boleyn

SuzanneClaret

;weep ;weep

OldCastleSwift

Too far? ;hmm

SuzanneClaret

No.

I think that’s what she looks like on the inside.

Cuz1

Why do we need to see photos of that vile women on this site

imagelost

OldCastleSwift said:

Too far? ;hmm

;hmm

Vorselaarhammer

Amazing what a bit of make up can do....

Never realised we had a Ork running the club...

grey_til_I_dye

That will probably do re: Brady.

It's not adding anything to the discussion.

imagelost

Apart from entertainment value

imagelost

grey_til_I_dye said:

That will probably do re: Brady.

It's not adding anything to the discussion.

Your right, only in one of films , a bit part actor

grey_til_I_dye

Image

Feels like it is moving from humour to just nasty.

MIAHammer

secrethammersfan said:

Has anyone posted this?
https://1.ftb.al/eUV0wnafgN
Tl;dr Pellegrini agreed in November 2017 he would take over at West Ham, and has been discussing transfer budgets and targets since then.
That would be a case of Gollivan acting like fans want them to.

If it's true, I applaud them but why then go through the theatrics:
- Interviewing other managers.
- Gold saying he wants Moyes to stay.

Just thank Moyes for getting the job done and announce Pellegrini. Unless we were talking to Pellegrini without the required permissions there was no reason for the antics.

imagelost

grey_til_I_dye said:

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Feels like it is moving from humour to just nasty.

;ok

MrsGrey

Yes, I'm not sure what the 'smokescreen' was meant to be screening. It doesn't really fit with the remainder of the theory.

I can, though, see that discussions with Pellegrini a while back might have led to a tentative agreement 'in principle' that if West Ham avoided relegation (and various other 'ifs') talks would be held again in the summer.

Exploring other possible options (eg Moyes, Fonseca, Rafa) in case things didn't work out with Pellegrini seems to me to be sensible forward planning.

I also don't really buy the line that Moyes wasn't given funds in January as part of the 'secret' strategy. Surely Pellegrini taking the job was contingent on us avoiding relegation.

imagelost

You should always have some sort back up plan

MrsGrey

Hope for the best, plan for the worst ;ok

ASLEFshrugged

So Moyes was on to a loser no matter what happened, if he kept us Pellegrini takes over, if we were relegated he'd have been given the push.

I actually feel sorry for him now

grey_til_I_dye

ASLEF

Always assuming this report is true...

Barney

Why was Moyes on a loser? he agreed a 6 month contract with no further commitment on either side; Did his job, got paid handsomely and the contract ended. He was then in competition with whoever else is available. That's life working on a contractual basis.

MrsGrey

grey_til_I_dye said:

ASLEF

Always assuming this report is true...

And always assuming that our staying up was the only qualification for Pellegrini coming.

ASLEFshrugged

Sadly it sounds all too believable...….

baracks_a_hammer

I think what also needs to be remembered is that Moyes was probably close the last chance saloon in terms of managing at the highest level, so the Dave’s took a massive risk in taking him on and arguably had more to lose than Moyes had it not worked

IronHerb

He was well paid for his 6 month contract and has, imo, improved his reputation somewhat.

Cuz1

But who sanctioned hugill then ?

grey_til_I_dye

Don't see the issue with signing Hugill.

Sakho was determined to do the off, and we needed cover.

We spent what we got for Sakho, and if/when we sell Hugill we've turned a profit.

Striker is always the most difficult position to fill, and how many proven strikers were going to be tempted by 'we'd like you as 4th choice backup' in a team at the wrong end of the table?

Yeoldhammer

its called "looking to your academy"

grey_til_I_dye

What is?

And who would we have looked to?

And what good would it have done them?

Cuz1

My point grey wasn’t a dig more on the IF our new manager had been sounded out prior to letting Moyes go, who’s decision was it to spend the money on him and not play him, I won’t judge the boy because he hasn’t been given a chance

OldCastleSwift

I think in this instance we may as well have looked to the Academy.

For the impact that Hugill had, there's an argument to say that any of our U23 or U18 forwards could have filled that role. There's probably an argument that a traffic cone could've done an equally good job.

I know this is with hindsight, but £9m for a 4th choice striker with no PL experience and only an average record in the Championship does seem like a waste of money.

claretandbluesky

I think in theory the Hugnil signing wasn't too bad as he was an effective championship striker that wasn't costing the earth at a time we needed back up. We couldn't maybe get a main striker in that window or maybe wanted to spend bigger funds elsewhere on a defensive midfielder (that didn't happen, I know), so on paper Hugnil looked a decent shout.

Unfortunately, and for reasons we cant know, he must have seriously disappointed Moyes in training as he has failed to use him even when there were obvious opportunities to introduce him.

I hope he will get an opportunity next season to take his chance as we bought him and he deserves a chance, which if he cannot take is down to him, but to be bought and not allowed a chance is quite harsh. I feel sure he has a decent contract compared to his Preston one but that will feel like small consolation when sitting on a bench when he could have been still playing each week for Preston.