Burnley at home - 10th March - Match Thread

Pearces_Left_Foot

Was it 11 Spurs players by any chance

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

IronHerb said:

Being paranoid here but jut watching MOTD2 and had the thought that generally when there are fans on the pitch the cameras steer clear of showing it with the "Oh dear, there's an idiot on the pitch" comment. In this instance both SKY and the BBC haven't stop showing it. ;hmm

You’d of thought they’d of panned in to Claret N Noclue’s flag for the duration

Pearces_Left_Foot

I would have preferred a protest like what the Liverpool fans did about ticket prices you just get up and go on a set time say 66 mins for the Bobby Moore link , the media would pick up on it and there would have been none of the scenes , the team could have got on with trying to get something out of the game and the owners would have been given a message without dragging the club through the mire

TheMadcapLaughs

Pearces_Left_Foot said:

All these people have done is make the club unattractive to any potential investors and set back the image of the club 30 years

Now I`m no fan of Gold, Sullivan and Brady. But I think this is a bit strong.

Pearces_Left_Foot

I was talking about the fans who were throwing coins etc Madcap

grey_til_I_dye

Pearces

Think Madcap was being mischievous.

TheMadcapLaughs

PLF ;wink


And PLF, I agree about the protests. No need for violence. This is where I think Brady scored an own goal. Far from being a public relations coup, calling off the march did nothing but stiffen peoples resolve and galvanize the anti board feelings.

As for the fan that grabbed the corner flag. Nothing more or less than a symbolic act. The chap has followed West Ham home and away for 50 ish years and apparently is one of the nicest chaps you could ever wish to meet. He is being labelled as a thug. Emily Davison is seen as a heroine and a martyr. Opinions.

PrestonHammer

The difference is Madcap. In 100 years, Emily Davison will still be seen as a heroine and a martyr, whilst this bloke will still be seen as an idiot with a corner flag.

TheMadcapLaughs

Preston, maybe. Or, as in 100 years our lease would have just expired, we may well be moving into a purpose built stadium with a statue at the gates of an "idiot" holding a corner flag.

ASLEFshrugged

I've finally seen Noble's 50-50 ball with Lennon in the first half. Luvverly

IronHerb

Highlights still haven't been posted on OS. ;lol

Expat_Hammer

IronHerb said:

Highlights still haven't been posted on OS. ;lol

Were there any ;lol

IronHerb

Good point ;lol

grey_til_I_dye

If Brady/the board gets the peaceful march called off by nefarious means, they can't be surprised if people have a go at the board in the ground.

Yeah, only that isn't what happened, which rather renders your point moot.

MrsGrey

Well, meeting with the fans and agreeing to act on their concerns. That's a dictionary definition of nefarious, right there.

grey_til_I_dye

bbb

No, I really don't think you are.

MrsGrey

There was actually never going to be a (legal) march anyway.

The organisers hadn't got permission before they 'called it off'.

SuzanneClaret

Newham council and the police said no...

Hammerwombat

Some of the fans v the board. Just at the moment there are at least 6 differing points of view.

MrsGrey

Macca85 said:

The atmosphere is there now it won’t change there will be no truce it’s the fans v the board

a minority of

Poshhammer

MrsGrey said:

a minority of

You raise an Interesting point Mrs Grey....perhaps there is currently a minority that wish to protest by chanting in front of the directors box and putting a flag in the ground. But how many fans are there that are in some way disgruntled/unhappy with the way the club is being run by our owners but don't wish to protest in or outside the stadium but instead make theyre voices heard through other means?

Some through sites like this or KUMB or WHO, some through twitter, or some choose to not go to matches at Stratford anymore or have or will give up their season ticket.

The amount of people currently wishing to protest is a minority, but I would suggest that the amount of people who are disillusioned with our owners and want change are much more.

PrestonHammer

You can still go to games and protest, just don't buy the merchandise. If everyone did that, it would affect the board, without affecting the players.

IronHerb

bbb

"There is also no proof that coins were thrown. Show me."

Sir Trev said it had happened and that is good enough for me.

IronHerb

Fair enough bbb. ;ok

Clactonite

I’m not sure or really care if I’m in the majority or whatever but at the moment I’m indifferent to the board and a lot more bothered and concerned about our team seemingly sliding towards the championship!

Are the board going to quit or sell the club any time soon - No
Can they spend more money on transfers now - No nothing till the summer
Will we be leaving the London Stadium - No

So what is the point of the protesting at this stage of the season?

Against Bournemouth and Leicester, when we went a goal down against them the crowd encouraged them and we got something from both games. So when we were needed most on Saturday to support the team, we then get distracted by some attention seekers invading the pitch and watching a mob of angry people shouting and swearing at an 81 year old man and scaring kids.

I’m not Sullivan’s biggest fan but just don’t think this is the right time and certainly don’t believe it was the right manner in which to protest.

Anyway I’m more of a reader of this forum than a commenter so think I’ll go back to that now. Peace coyi

chicagohammer

Re the coins debate, the coverage I saw showed DS being led away by the arm and he was clearly very shaken indeed, he did not walk away from the directors area with anything like a normal body posture.

I said at the time that something must have been hurled at him beyond just words.

When I heard the accusation that coins were thrown, unfortunately I am afraid that I have no doubt.

MrsGrey

Macca85 said:

bring back the old club crest

Which one? ;whistle

ASLEFshrugged

Macca85 said:

The board now have a couple of weeks to really make some changes that maybe able to calm the storm and unite the fans, but they need to happen now. The club needs west hamming to make it feel like a proper football club.
I would do the following
Ask Sir Trevor Brooking to be a Director of the club make Billy Bonds Ambassador of the club these are people the fans trust
Re name Rush Green after Ron Greenwood bring back the old club crest name the other two stands after west ham Legends Lyall and Bonds.

Go all out to drape the football club in its history and surround yourself with West Ham people and drive home the pr machine.

This may yes may turn the corner.

If memory serves Sir Trev was a director but resigned when he became the FA's Director of Football Development in order to avoid a conflict of interest. He's often said he's got his dream job so I can't imagine he'd want to walk away from it and rejoin as a director.

The rest is just PR. I think its going to take a lot more than that to make the fans happy

MrsGrey

I thought he wasn't doing that for the FA now?

ASLEFshrugged

Oh yeah. Alzheimer's on my part........

PS here's something frightening

Joe Hart has conceded 36 goals in 19 games, average 1.895
Bernard Lama conceded 25 goals in 14 games, average 1.785