Brighton (Home) Friday 20th 8pm (match thread)

thornburyiron

That highlights another problem for me when we lose the ball especially if the player goes to ground but doesn’t get a free kick, they sit there banging the ground and moaning at the ref. He isn’t going to change his mind so get up and get on with it

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

That probably applies to many PL/footballers

TwistandShout

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5010009/West-Ham-players-hold-crisis-talks-training-ground.html

Nobes ;bowdown

ASLEFshrugged

Ginger too

thornburyiron

I see little merit in praising Nobes for having a go because there seemed no emotion in the dressing room Friday but as captain if players are not happy with tactics or training methods, which we fans believe are non existent, he should be discussing their concerns with Slav. They should also be his concerns.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

First off you rarely seem happy about anything Thorn ;lol secondly you’re not speaking for me when it comes to non-existent training or tactics

;ok

MrsGrey

Nor me.

mike

Well i would agree with you thorn.
I was there friday,the energy levels leading to lack of pace,slow build up and the tracking back in defence was shocking.Something ian wright correctly picked up on MOTD2.
Why doesn't he get asked these questions in post match interviews.?
I just have this feeling that if we beat palace on saturday the two davids will think everything is rosy in the camp and we will carry on with bilic until the next disaster or even relegation.
Rant over
Mike

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

The stats on MOTD 2 were based over the season so far, not just one game. Obviously they don’t make good reading, but we did do a lot of running especially in the first half but it wasn’t happening for us unfortunately.

But to say and agree with non-existent training and tactics is just way over the top

grey_til_I_dye

We are one of at least 8 teams who are playing badly and/or doing badly so far this season, from West Brom down.

Unless you are going to argue that none of those teams have tactics or training methods, then perhaps it would be better to accept that there are complex reasons why teams struggle.

mike

Slaven

I don't think it was just a case of not happening for us.
We had a spell in the first half when we were all over brighton but didn't create any chances due to brighton being strong defensively and our players getting the ball in good positions and then not knowing what to do with it.Second half we couldn't deal with the brighton counter attacks because our tracking back is too slow.
I agreed with thorn because questions have to be asked about our training methods.I am not saying they are non-existent because i don't have that privilege of watching them train but i have read from ex players who went to other clubs saying that the training at west ham wasn't as hard and intensive.

Yeoldhammer

grey_til_I_dye said:

We are one of at least 8 teams who are playing badly and/or doing badly so far this season, from West Brom down.

Unless you are going to argue that none of those teams have tactics or training methods, then perhaps it would be better to accept that there are complex reasons why teams struggle.

What's your take on why West Ham are struggling.

thornburyiron

Non existent was obviously an OTT statement as they do train but whatever they do do is non effective. Their fitness and stamina is sadly lacking and if anyone can see any kind of tactical plans in games perhaps they can post them.
This year and last pre season was a shambles as no patterns of play emerged. I said during pre season that it shouldn’t all be about fitness because if that’s all we concentrate on then come the first game we won’t know what we are doing. We are 9 games in and still don’t know what we are doing and our fitness levels seem to be below what you’d expect.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

If they didn’t train or nothing was effective then they’d lose anywhere between 5-10 nil every week

There are so many factors and fine lines involved, of course there are tactics they’re just working!!

jay_in_cpt

My main worry is simply the teams we have faced compared to a few around us....
We have only had Man U & Spurs from the top few, some around has had a more tricky start...

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

That should’ve said “not working”

;doh

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

All comes out in the wash Jay, no need to panic yet, give it until Sunday at least ;ok

IronHerb

We haven't played anyone below us yet. ;biggrin