Leicester Match Thread (18th March 3pm KO)

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  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Yes I'll go with six as I can't see us getting anything from Liverpool, Spurs or Everton at home and Arsenal, Stoke or Burnley away.
    Leaves us Swansea home and Sunderland and Hull away to get something.
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    I know it's obvious to say but that stadium is still a huge albatross around our neck. Completely soulless in all respects and the players can feel it, I'm certain.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Ridiculous to blame the stadium. The stadium doesn't make players make stupid defensive mistakes or leave players unmarked in the 6 yard box.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    thorn

    I didn't say I enjoy watching us lose. Why would you suggest that I did?

  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Twist

    We scored two goals (again) and gave away three (again.)

    Not sure I'd be blaming the lack of a striker for our troubles atm.

    I see your point, G. Randolph has to be dropped IMO. Conceding 3 goals every game doesn't help
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Grey I didn't mean you enjoy watching us lose but if you enjoy watching us play even if we lose then I think you've got 6 more games like today to come ie enjoy but lose.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Bournemouth have now gone above us and after we've played Arsenal we could well be 15th or even 16th. We need to win at Hull
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    Grey said:
    Each to their own. I enjoyed it. I like it when I can watch us and enjoy it, even if we lose

    Thorn said:
    Good job you can enjoy it when we lose Grey

    Grey said:
    I didn't say I enjoy watching us lose. Why would you suggest that I did?


    Grey, I think that you have to admit Thorn has not drawn an unreasonable inference.
    "Even if" implies "in some moment of time (albeit unknown)", just as "when" can be interpreted similarly.

  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Someone else's turn to do the match thread...

    We'll run out of people at this rate ;whistle
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    We've conceded 103 goals in 67 league games under Bilic

    For all the good stuff last season he's never truly sorted our defence out, we had a little run with the draws last season but that was it

  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    NE

    If you are prepared to ignore punctuation, you might draw that conclusion, but that would assume you were more interested in making a point rather than taking the sense of what was written.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    edited March 2017
    Think we missed Noble tbh ;whistle
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I think only Lanzini, Byram and Ayew came out of that with any credit. Mousaka had a decent cameo but the rest were poor. It's time for Randy to go and Bilic needs to pull his socks up.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I might allow Randy might possibly have done better with the 2nd (I'd need to see it again), but to blame him for all the gaols we concede is simplistic in the extreme imo.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    He was at fault for the 1st.
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    Ayew awful, Carroll calamitous, , Antonio accomplished, Lanzini legendary, Obiang omnipresent, Kouyate clinical, Cresswell cautious, Reid reliable, Fonte fair, Byram bland, Randolph ropey - Snodgrass soul-less, Fernandes formidable, Masuaku marginal. Leicester lucky. West Ham woeful. Bilic bullish but badly-prepared. Hammers - hapless.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I think Grey is getting confused about which game he enjoyed today - my guess is he was actually referring to the rugby
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    The second half was surely enjoyable for West Ham fans as we virtually laid siege to the Leicester half, unfortunately due to a couple of pieces of atrocious finishing we got no reward, but it always looked as though we might throughout as we were crafting chances, but then missing them. Played some good stuff at points (usually when Lanzini on the ball ).

    I think everyone wants to win the match but if it becomes impossible to enjoy a game that we lose then we become like those managers that traditionally we have not liked such as George Graham etc in which the result was all that mattered. I think at West Ham we would reject that philosophy pretty quickly in a manager because we acknowledge we want to watch an enjoyable game of football and accept that you are not always going to get the result you deserve. Today's match should have been a draw without doubt as they won the first half and we the second, the difference was Schmichael and our wayward finishing.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    baracks

    I did indeed enjoy the rugby, and I enjoyed watching our second half performance.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Playing better in the second half is pretty pointless when you have tossed away the game in the first.

    You are also playing an opposition in a completely different mindset compared to one which is not two goals up

    The game lasts 90 minutes not 45
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    C&B you're right in your assertion that we as Hammers fans want to watch enjoyable football but to most it becomes less enjoyable when, because we stupidly due to ineptitude, keep giving 1 or 2 goal starts, the chance of getting something from games is a big challenge. Had we lost today because they scored 3 truly great goals I think people would accept it more readily but you can't blame wayward finishing because our strikers are under greater pressure because they are having to try to get 3 or 4 goals per game to have any chance of winning.
    It must be demoralising for the forwards to see our defence conceding poor goals all the time. In fact it's hard to see our defence at all because they're nowhere to be seen when they're needed mostly.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Masuaka showed why he could be a starter and why he shouldn't

    He was a lot brighter than Cresswell on the ball, wasn't afraid to take on the full backs, backed himself in 50/50s......but then he have away a silly pass to Leicester about 30/40 yards from our goal

    Hopefully Obiang and Reid aren't for.too long

    Antonio and Lanzini were class, Ayew showed glimpses of what he's got, need to sort out the defence though it's a joke
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    What troubles me is that we have quality, experienced defenders like Reid and Fonte who have proved themselves under different managers in the Prem, yet in a Bilic side are at the heart of a defence that regularly concedes two plus goals a game.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    baracks

    Not sure why you felt the need to tell me that. ;hmm

    I enjoyed watching us in the 2nd half. Apparently, you didn't.
  • HantshammerHantshammer
    Third game on match of the day though going to be a painful watch. Hope smiler Lawrenson isn't on!
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    puddleglumhammers said:

    Ayew awful, Carroll calamitous, , Antonio accomplished, Lanzini legendary, Obiang omnipresent, Kouyate clinical, Cresswell cautious, Reid reliable, Fonte fair, Byram bland, Randolph ropey - Snodgrass soul-less, Fernandes formidable, Masuaku marginal. Leicester lucky. West Ham woeful. Bilic bullish but badly-prepared. Hammers - hapless.

    I get that it is clever to alliterate, but I disagree with almost all of your adjectives.
    Fernandes formidable?

    Leicester weren't lucky.

    Lanzini no way was legendary.

    Obiang's weakness led to a Leicester goal.

    etc.

    Are you sure you watched the game?



  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited March 2017
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    What troubles me is that we have quality, experienced defenders like Reid and Fonte who have proved themselves under different managers in the Prem, yet in a Bilic side are at the heart of a defence that regularly concedes two plus goals a game.

    I'm going to look up Reids stats.

    I don't think it is just under Bilic that he has conceded 2+ goals a game. I'm not even sure that's his average under Bilic.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    It's not far short of a 2 per game average. We've conceded 52 in 29 games
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    That's a West Ham average for this season so far.

    baracks was referring (a) to the defence when Reid is playing and (b) for the period of Bilic as manager.

    And also implied that the goals conceded on average when Reid is playing is worse under Bilic than under other managers.

    So those are the stats I'm going to look up.

    But it's gone midnight here, so it's on my list of things to do tomorrow.

    zzzzzzzzzz
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    edited March 2017
    Grey,
    what's the difference between
    I like it when I can watch us and enjoy it, even if we lose
    and
    I like it when I can watch us and enjoy it even if we lose?

    (apart from the comma of course
    or
    apart from the comma, of course)

    The point to which you refer was in defence of Thorn's reasonable inference.
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