Sully: Ok, but I've got a deal on a centre back and a winger
Bilic: But we don't need those. We need a striker and a right back
Sully: but there's no deals to be had there and these two are a steal
Bilic: but they won't improve the team and we will still be short
Sully: too late, deal done. I got a bargain.
Jokes aside, I sometimes feel this is how we do business. If Sully was to go into a shop needing a screwdriver to change a fuse for the tv, and saw that Allen keys were half price, he'd come home with 5 Allen keys and no screwdriver but telling the whole house what a great deal he got yet no one could watch the tv.
What I think is funny, is that there is this idea that if another club wants one of our players they will be off because the player wants to be, so what's the point in keeping a player who doesn't want to be here, yet we should instantly go in at asking price for anyone we want
Sorry alderz there is a difference, if Real Madrid come in for Payet they will put the decent money up, they are not going to offer 5m or completely lowball us for Payet and then we see him go.
There is a difference between offering 5m to a team who wants to stay in the PL and could earn 100m from staying in the PL for their best player and a Real Madrid coming along offering in excess of 30m+ for Payet.
Yet, when people on this forum said in the summer they would only accept £80m for Payet, others were suggesting that if he wanted to go we would have to accept bids of less than that, because if he wanted to then what can we do.
I wouldn't sell Payet for less than 50 personally, but 35m is a some what reasonable offer.
Its not like what we have done which is go to Hull and Sunderland and are offering half what they paid for those players for most probably their best players.
I don't think any club would come to West Ham and offer 5m half what we paid for Payet to try and buy him ? its insulting and doesn't seem like you are even trying to negotiate more like trying to wind up the other team whilst making it look like you are "trying" to do a deal when clearly you're not.
I think there is a different between putting in a lower offer to test the waters and increasing your bid and flat out offering something that is outright laughable really.
If I was Snodgrass, I'd go "jeez, West Ham reckon I'm worth £3m-£5m, brilliant, well worth going there then".
If I was Defoe, I'd go "jeez, West Ham reckon I'm worth £5m-£6m, brilliant, well worth going there then".
It doesn't exactly endear you to the player.
It winds the club up too, who probably feel it's a massive waste of time and is an attempt to unsettle the player. I think that's exactly what we're doing. Make a bid, make it public, unsettle the player and hope he hands in a request and you can bring the price down.
Snodgrass, I don't want or rate. If he's to replace Feghouli, there is an argument to say he's an upgrade because Feghouli has done nothing whilst Snodgrass has scored goals and got assists for a poor side.
As Yeold says, if Madrid came and offered £15m for Payet, I would look at that as a deliberate attempt to unsettle him, knowing full well we'd never accept that.
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not David Sulivan ;biggrin
Sully: Ok, but I've got a deal on a centre back and a winger
Bilic: But we don't need those. We need a striker and a right back
Sully: but there's no deals to be had there and these two are a steal
Bilic: but they won't improve the team and we will still be short
Sully: too late, deal done. I got a bargain.
Jokes aside, I sometimes feel this is how we do business. If Sully was to go into a shop needing a screwdriver to change a fuse for the tv, and saw that Allen keys were half price, he'd come home with 5 Allen keys and no screwdriver but telling the whole house what a great deal he got yet no one could watch the tv.
Come on the David's, surprise us please.
you know it makes sense.
Hope you feel better soon Brookings
;wink
There is a difference between offering 5m to a team who wants to stay in the PL and could earn 100m from staying in the PL for their best player and a Real Madrid coming along offering in excess of 30m+ for Payet.
Yet, when people on this forum said in the summer they would only accept £80m for Payet, others were suggesting that if he wanted to go we would have to accept bids of less than that, because if he wanted to then what can we do.
Its not like what we have done which is go to Hull and Sunderland and are offering half what they paid for those players for most probably their best players.
I don't think any club would come to West Ham and offer 5m half what we paid for Payet to try and buy him ? its insulting and doesn't seem like you are even trying to negotiate more like trying to wind up the other team whilst making it look like you are "trying" to do a deal when clearly you're not.
I think there is a different between putting in a lower offer to test the waters and increasing your bid and flat out offering something that is outright laughable really.
If I was Defoe, I'd go "jeez, West Ham reckon I'm worth £5m-£6m, brilliant, well worth going there then".
It doesn't exactly endear you to the player.
It winds the club up too, who probably feel it's a massive waste of time and is an attempt to unsettle the player. I think that's exactly what we're doing. Make a bid, make it public, unsettle the player and hope he hands in a request and you can bring the price down.
Snodgrass, I don't want or rate. If he's to replace Feghouli, there is an argument to say he's an upgrade because Feghouli has done nothing whilst Snodgrass has scored goals and got assists for a poor side.
As Yeold says, if Madrid came and offered £15m for Payet, I would look at that as a deliberate attempt to unsettle him, knowing full well we'd never accept that.
Have you got a more up-to-date link to confirmed agreement? Last I saw, Spurs were holding out for 10m.
I reckon the Board think they can operate using the "Levy" process & he comes unstuck on occasions.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2591568/west-ham-transfer-news-scott-hogan-set-to-move-to-london-stadium-after-15m-fee-agreed-with-brentford/
We've offered Brentford £13m plus clauses for Hogan. They're holding out for £15m
Trippier is our No1 right back target. I think we all know how that ends.
Also interested in Iorfa, Fonte, Jenkinson and Sakho
We're trying to sell Feghouli to Roma but they want a loan deal. Snodgrass would be the replacement target.
Bilic watched Martinez play for the U23s the other night and was impressed. He may feature for the first team soon.
Antonio and Randy will be offered New contracts.
Payet likely to go in the summer.
I hope we don't miss out on Hogan for the sake of £2m. I wonder if Martinez is the back up plan ;hmm
Would love Trippier, but I feel Jenkinson is more likely.
Twenty long days to go...