The Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2017/18 - sackings etc at other clubs - Zidane going/gone

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  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    I'm more concerned because they may nick a promising manager that we could use next season after Moyes walks away.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Yep, mentioned same thing on the relegation thread ;doh ;hmm
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited March 2018
    Well they have choice a of Silva, Bilic or Koeman. Sure they’ll get the right one and stay up.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    There are more than 3 managers available.
  • alderzalderz
    Lukerz said:

    Well they have choice a of Silva, Bilic or Koeman. Sure they’ll get the right one and stay up.

    According to some people, hiring an out of work manager would make them cheap, and it’s easy to just get someone in work if they really wanted to.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Drop that mike...,
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited March 2018
    I think the point being made was that an out of work manager doesn’t make a poor appointment; an out of work manager, on a 6 month deal, with nothing but a recent record of failure on his CV, possibly does.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    What a difference a few weeks make
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    No, Luke, some people were definitely making the point that the owners were only going to appoint an available manager, because they are cheap.
  • stevesteve
    Lets one up the saints get rid of moyes and get silva in before they do
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Old thread, back in November when Bilic left...
    Lukerz said:

    Honestly if it’s Moyes it will be #g&sout

    Anything to avoid getting their money out.

  • Giant_HammerGiant_Hammer
    Daily fail says sparky appointment imminent. ;hmm
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Why Silva? He couldn’t save Hull and wasn’t doing much with Watford.
  • stevesteve
    I just like silva always have .quick fix maybe that's what we need then regroup in the summer ,
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    If you sack a manager and bring in another, pretty much the main criteria needs to be that the new person is better than the previous.

    IMO silva is definitely better than Pellegrino
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Imo I’m better than Moyes silva and pellegrino
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Then you woke up ;biggrin
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    And realised it was a fact, not opinion.
  • ClaretandBlueforLifeClaretandBlueforLife
    Careful what you wish for......Mark Hughes is still available........ ;nonono ;nonono
  • ClaretandBlueforLifeClaretandBlueforLife
    edited March 2018
    Well Hughes is in talks with Southampton.........good luck in The Championship ;lol ;lol
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited March 2018
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    No, Luke, some people were definitely making the point that the owners were only going to appoint an available manager, because they are cheap.

    Tbf that hasn’t been proven incorrect, has it?

    They went for an available one.

    They went for an available one because they are cheap? Well based on their hiring record (Grant, Sam, Bilic, Moyes = all available at no cost), I think that’s a reasonable thing to imply.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Lukerz

    Nor has it been proven correct, but that isn't really the point, is it?
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Some people on here looked upon Bilic as the one to take us to the next level with a playing style to match now he’s the cheap option how times change, here’s me happy with mid table and good cup run
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited March 2018
    Cuz1 said:

    Some people on here looked upon Bilic as the one to take us to the next level with a playing style to match now he’s the cheap option how times change, here’s me happy with mid table and good cup run

    Not every manager out of work is a cheap option. I thought Bilic was the right man but he lost a grip of everything, not helped from above, and came across exhausted. Sam was also ‘the right man’. Grant and, so far, Moyes, look like they were poor options.

    Being available doesn’t mean you’re a bad manager, but it limits the pool of options if you do go for one out of work. For me, you look for the best man for the job. I understand that this season it was not going to be easy replacing Slav mid season. I get that. But it doesn’t change the fact that 3/4 of their managerial appts were made in the close season, and all were available. It also doesn’t change the fact they decided to keep Bilic on in the summer.

    And I don’t get this points scoring approach to discussion. So what if someone said something different 4 months ago or 4 years ago. Opinion can change and so do circumstances.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Wasn’t a dig at anyone’s personal choice sir Alex had only done it at Aberdeen and if there fans had there he’d have been gone long before all his success, my point really is all the chop and change ie not sticking with managers when things are not going well you will end up with this type of stereotype manager because nobody in there right mind would want to come
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Lukerz

    I don't think anyone is point scoring, but I do think it is fair to look either for consistency, or for an acceptance that a pov has changed.

    I don't think, in this example, that it is fair to charge our owners with being cheap because they appoint available managers, and then not do so to other clubs that do the same.

    Otherwise it looks like special pleading.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Practically everybody hires a manager out of work, unless you’re a much better side than us.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Luke, I wasn't trying to dig you out by re-posting your old comment. Just trying to clarify what had been said on the subject because current 'how we remember it' might not always match up with what actually happened.

    Of course opinions can change ;ok

    But what has been said is there for all eternity. Well, until grey backs up the database and prunes the ancient discussions, that is.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    It's being reported that Mark Hughes is going to get the Soton job which is quite a brave move to employ the manager sacked by the team two places below you and in the relegation places to help you avoid relegation.

    My hope is that when we play them Arnie gets to wind him up for a second time by netting a couple before striding past him as a late substitute as he did against stoke.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    And throwing his scarf at him. ;lol
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