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  • BarneyBarney
    I think if the protesters drop the 'Board out' approach (it is not going to happen) and press for some of the changes I have see presented quite well recently we may see some progress. I thought the video was a good start but as always actions speak louder than words.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Cuz1 said:

    Wondering why they let the American on the board with a ten % stake is he going to try buy outright?

    They didn't let him onto the board, he bought the last remaining shares held by Straumur
  • HamstewHamstew
    It's all words nothing more.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I get the feeling that the changes to transfer policy Sully mentioned may well be down to Moyes.

    At the least, the part where he says we won't sign players the manager hasn't watched echoed what Moyes said about how he likes to do things.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Ooh! Ooh! I was right!
    “We’ve put together some plans and thoughts about what we’re going to do (re recruitment structure) and over the years I had good success with the way we ran it,” said the manager, alluding to his eleven-year spell at Everton, where he unearthed a succession of future first-team stars from a variety of courses.
    Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/12-february/moyes-resurgent-marko-hard-earned-praise-and-recruitment#zsKgiueqlYMtrdRk.99
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    All suggesting that he may be staying after this season?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2018
    Hamstew said:

    It's all words nothing more.

    At this stage, yes. But it will be interesting to see if they put into practice, for example, the recruitment plan
    that is going to set up something that hopefully gives us another look. It’s going to come a little bit away from the chairman. The Chairman is going to try to stand aside a bit from it*.
    Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/february/12-february/moyes-resurgent-marko-hard-earned-praise-and-recruitment#gWCUxmo9KTHv9RTd.99

    It won't be done overnight (“The hardest thing is to get things done exactly right at this time because there may be people in jobs who we wouldn’t be able to take away just now, so we might have to do it more in-house at this time*), and of course there's always the chance that it may end up delivering less success than the existing system.

    Time will tell.




    *Just in case people later misinterpret or misremember what was said. It isn't 'DS is going to have nothing more to do with it, and they are going to put the new structure in place immediately.' Also, it is Moyes saying this, not the owners. #lovefacts
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    I hope so he’s done enough in my eyes to earn at least two years let’s hope he wants it, he’s got players playing better and only had a couple of blips
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    The first step is to acknowledge there is a problem which sully had now done and with moyes interview it sounds like he is going to have the final say and all players will be scouted much better
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    The question is why nothing was done before and why on earth the owners were playing "Championship Manager" and signing players the manager had never seen play.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    edited February 2018
    It will be fine as long as Mr Moyes decides that the players we need are the ones WE (fans) want. ;whistle
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    You say PR, I say information.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Can't win ... fans wanted him to speak and address various issues. He gives an interview. (Some) fans dismiss it.

    If (those) fans were always going to dismiss it, why bother asking in the first place.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    It was nothing interview imo. It will be interesting to see how a total micro manager, that DS is, manages to fully delegate the recruitment role. Also what is a 'huge' analysis and scouting department and 'massive' video department meant to mean?
    This has only come about due to the pressure they are feeling.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited February 2018
    MrsGrey said:

    Can't win ... fans wanted him to speak and address various issues. He gives an interview. (Some) fans dismiss it.

    If (those) fans were always going to dismiss it, why bother asking in the first place.

    Maybe those dismissing it weren't the ones asking for it.

    I get where you're coming from though, and to some extent I agree. However, I do think Herbie is right and the interview was only released because of the pressure the fans have created through social media and, perhaps more pressingly, the march.

    Some fans probably won't be happy until Sully gives an interview in which he commits to spending £100m each summer and guarantees the stadium will be bought outright and converted into a 'proper' football stadium, but I think the majority will at least acknowledge that he's trying to appease them.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    A lot of the problem isn't identifying the players, it's doing the deal once we've decided who we want, and, although I accept there are loads of factors involved any of which can mean a deal doesn't happen, the ability and willingness to pay are still seemingly major obstacles and those negotiations will still undoubtedly involve DS.

    Interview was pure fluff imo, effectively saying if the fans don't get behind the board, any problems on the field will be down to the fans.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    OCS ;ok (Hence my 'some' and 'if' )
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Mrs G ;ok
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Macca85 said:

    I for one never want him to give another interview ever!!!
    Him and gold need to retire and chill out at there age live in the shadows and let someone else do it!!
    Is Daniel Levy available

    As long as its not Terence Brown, Peter Storrie, Gianluca Nani or Angus Kinnear.

    We've certainly had our fair share of muppets at this club
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    If Sully can actually delegate to someone it could be the change that we need as for me he has appeared to occupy a role he is not equipped for and has suffered delusions of adequacy along with Brady for too long.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    It would be a definite step forward in my eyes with those out of the headlines and someone doing a proper pr job for us, because every time lately when they open there mouths it winds me up
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Not strictly related but I see the new PL TV deal is less than the current by 600million.

    Starts in 2019.

    I assume that will be all at the expense of the club ask will need to be managed.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    edited February 2018
    Still 2 of the 7 packages to be sold, though, I think?
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    True but I think the figures I saw was like for like comparison vs the last deal with Sky & BT...

    Not sure how much the remaining games are worth but I assume the English channels are the biggest part of the money... ;hmm
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Package A - won by BT 32 matches on Saturdays at 12:30

    Package B - won by Sky Sports 32 matches on Saturdays at 17:30

    Package C - won by Sky Sports 24 matches on Sundays at 14:00 and eight matches on Saturdays at 19:45

    Package D - won by Sky Sports 32 matches on Sundays at 16:30

    Package E - won by Sky Sports 24 matches on Mondays at 20:00 or Fridays at 19:30/20:00 and eight matches on Sundays at 14:00

    Package F - to be decided 20 matches from one Bank Holiday and one midweek fixture programme

    Package G - to be decided 20 matches from two midweek fixture programmes
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Posh

    Then I can only assume you didn't actually watch it.
  • alderzalderz
    Also there was all the stuff about acknowledging the stadium isn’t good enough yet, and that the transfer strategy needs to be totally different.
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    1) "we love west ham - we are fans"
    2) "please put your trust in us"
    3) ""things will get better over time"
    Pretty much what any owner would say, no?

    But as alderz points out posh is being very selective (is there an agenda to be fitted here? ;wink ) in his quotes.
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Board in undermining their own staff example 2,147,589...

    http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=132199
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2018
    Just to be accurate, the point at which Gold named him and how much he had cost was after Dyer let the club. So he wasn't actually 'staff.' And I'm not really clear how you can say the comment was 'undermining' him. How exactly?

    And if we are honest, we have to acknowledge that Gold was only saying what many many fans said and though at the time ... and still do say and think (just look btl in the kumb article.)

    I'm not saying it's right. After all, just because they are entitled to boo give their opinion doesn't mean they should. But are we saying the owners must never express an opinion on past players?

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