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  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    After many years the rubbish that we are playing and the issues with the stadium have started to erode my passion for the team.
    What is going on at West Ham is not just sad it’s a disgrace to our great players of the past.

    Our players now are clearly not fit , have no appetite for the game and worst of all don’t really care about the fans and club.

    If they did they would never lose 3-0 at home to a team like Brighton.
  • PengemanPengeman
    Terrible game and team (was there a team?) performance. Antonio tried but nothing worked. Hart is not really an EPL players. How many errors has he made? Do players want to play for Bilic? 4-4-1-1 did not do anything. Was it matter of formation, player fitness/ability, tactics, attitude, motivation, lack of width, lack of self-respect, or all of these? May be too many players believing in their own hype and thinking they will beat newly promoted teams. It would be hard to motivate players for the next game. Reluctantly, I would now settle for a managerial change. We have played 9 games and it looks bleak but the season can be rescued.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited October 2017
    Glenn Murray Named Man of Match ...
    That says it all.
  • stevesteve
    ;weep feel so sad but being a loyal fan I will be behind the team on Wednesday nothing like a win over spurs to cheer us all up ;whistle
  • LukerzLukerz
    Problem with changing manager is that the Dave’s won’t pay for a replacement, so it will have to be a free agent manager.
  • stevesteve
    Ancelotti
  • imagelostimagelost
    Go down then
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    steve said:

    Ancelotti

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  • imagelostimagelost
    Nooooo
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    I am so angry by that performance. Only 1 player showed a bit of passion and that was Zabaleta. The rest of them were disgraceful. Strolling around, not a care in the world
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    What have we done to another good striker?

    Chicarito will go the same way as Payet . Our board must also take an awful lot of the blame for the horrible state the club is in off and on the pitch.

    Worst I have known it for years and that is really saying something as we have had so many dreadful years over my lifetime
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    I’m actually rather cross with that dismal performance. I am struggling to find a good word to say about it.


    I suppose it was nice that the rain kept off.
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    Truly shocking. We have only one quality player, Reid, who may well be off soon after that.
    Always been a big Bilic fan but I am no longer sure about him. He picked the subs and Ayew was the only attacking option ! Arrogant and a joke. Martinez should have been there, along with Samuelson or Habaznovic or someone who could change a game. Fernandes for Arnautovic was a joke. Surely Cresswell on and Masuaku pushed up was the better option.
    Only a fully fit Sakho might of helped today and I doubt it. We were lucky to get away with 0-3 !!!
  • BarneyBarney
    we are not fit, dont work for each other and most players are just there for the money. think we will lose a few in January - lets hope it is the right ones. Zabaleta was the only player who came away with any credit for me tonight. would like to see him made captain.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Even Antonio doesn't look like he cares that much anymore.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I've maintained all along that Bilic's first season was mostly a fluke because almost all of the top clubs had a poor season by their standards and we benefitted. I think Payet realised very soon into his second season that Bilic didn't know what he was doing and I'm pretty sure some of our other players will soon come to that conclusion if he's here much longer. As someone mentioned earlier, how many players who play well for their clubs join us and suddenly go downhill and look shadows of their former selves.
    According to Zab they watched videos of Brighton which suggested they knew how they would play. It seems other teams know exactly what to do against us but we have no idea how to approach games to nullify them.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Utterly shambolic.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Neville and Carragher almost called our performance disgusting and said the crowd walking out en masse shows a serious problem at the club.
  • stevesteve
    ;hmm what do you really mean Suz............ ;sofa
  • welovethehammerswelovethehammers
    Many points I'd like to make (been wanting to say this for a while).

    Adrian is better than Hart. Plus better at organising and leading the team.
    Collins and Reid are easily our best defenders. I'd even put Collins as captain if he was fit.
    Obiang is a good player but isn't looking sharp this season. Kouyate is our best CM at the moment and that's worrying as he seems off form but is still better than the rest. Rice may be equally as good but has been unfairly dropped. I know he's a kid but Bilic has something about avoiding the kids. If he was the exact same player and you didn't know his age (or if he was of the same ability but was 30) Bilic would be playing him.
    Cresswell and Masuaku on the left is our best option.
    We need organisation, leadership and tactical awareness at the back (and going forward).
    Hernandez needs to play on the shoulder. He also needs some encourage (I question Bilic's man management and ability to fire him up). Hernanez needs a strike partner (and not Carroll as that doesn't work). I appreciate Sakho is injured but he'd be the ideal partner. In fact I believe something suspicious is going on behind the scenes with Sakho (maybe Bilic's is leaving him out of the team due to an attitude problem that's being covered up as an injury). Hernandez and Martinez could work very well up front although I do appreciate it is a big risk.
    We do not have a game plan. The commentators got it spot on when they said "if it wasn't for giving the ball to Antonio and hoping for the best" we wouldn't know what to do with it.
    We need to get the ball forwards quicker. Zip it about with purpose. That's why I like Antonio as he is willing to drive the ball forward and get something into the box. Players like Kouyate choose the safe pass after taking 5 seconds to get the ball under control.
    Bilic's needs to realise who's playing well and who isn't, what's working and who isn't. It's clear that Ayew has been running round like a headless chicken for a while yet still gets in the squad. We know Hernandez has had no luck with playing deeper - the only time he's scored has been from rebounds from Sakho's shots. So surely playing Sakho also helps him.
    The youngsters are obviously a risk but hopefully they'd inspire the first teamers to push themselves.
    I truly believe Adrian is better than Hart. People say Hart has more potential and is less injury prone but I think Adrian makes less errors and has a lot more potential (think the season before last).
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    Well said. Agree with most of this.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited October 2017
    I don’t understand how we can produce that game with that squad?

    #Baffled
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    It must be the manager's fault, Suzanne. I wish it wasn't as Bilic was great post Sam but enough is enough.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I can. Our coaching squad, if it actually exists, is totally useless and has no impact at all on tactics or plans or formations. It's almost as if when a player gets the ball he has no idea what he should do with it and generally give it straight back to the player who gave it to him. Exception is Zab who shows clearly that his previous managers and game plans were positive.
    We are a total shambles and I can't see it changing while we have the current management team in place.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    The players shouldn't escape criticism. Their 'effort' today was abysmal
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited October 2017
    I'd love Sky to go and spend a week filming us train so we can all see what goes on because whatever does go on doesn't translate to anything positive on the field.
    Most of our squad are internationals but if their national manager saw them playing for us they'd never win another cap.
  • EssexHammerEssexHammer
    edited October 2017
    Adrian by a country mile is a better keeper than Hart.

    Was never keen on Hart coming in and have seen nothing that has changed my mind.

    As for Arnautovic, biggest waste of money i've known in all the years of supporting the club.

    I think most of us guessed that from the beginning.

    Used to have one good game in four for Stoke.

    Just worried that Chicharito will see his form decline rapidly and decide to move on.

    What do we do to players?

    Snodgrass wasn't brilliant but his form nosedived when he joined us.

    There's something systemically wrong at the club and there has been for a while.

  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Is it the manager.

    These sort of displays have been happening for years now. We get thrashed by teams who are rubbish all the time. In fact we seem to get thrashed quite often.

    It doesn’t seem to matter who our manager is or who plays for us. We have no real leader on the pitch or real leaders running the club. Also players that join us do not care about the club or the fans . We have become a bit of a nothing club and after the move the club seems to have lost a lot of its soul.

    We are in a really bad place at the moment.
  • PengemanPengeman
    I don't buy this sop about how the new stadium is responsible for dip in form. How it come other teams can win at WHU? It was a very poor bench today with little for attacking options. As established players are not delivering why not try younger and hungrier players. Arnautovic has been a big minus so far and Ayew isn't the speedy forward that he appeared during his Swansea days. May be give Martinez and Holland a go. Not sure why 3-5-2 which gave us a few points has been abandoned.

    Next EPL game we would be back to the usual problem of where to play Hernandez. He can't be the sole striker and is wasted on the wing. Why buy a player who does not fit the game plan (did I say Bilic has a game plan?).
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    edited October 2017
    Bilic = fake manager. = clueless. How did it go...Koutyate (midfield) off replaced by Ayew (striker) and then followed some time later by Arnie (striker) for Fernandes (midfield) errr isn't that back to square one in terms of approach?
    Talk about ;quaver don't know what your doing ;quaver

    Hart << Adrian

    I never understood why we went for Hart while we had Adrian oh hang on yes I did.....he was cheap and the Daves thought a crowd pleaser! Fools!

    Terrible evening but I should have been prepared so partly my fault.

    Zabaleta easily our best player but a MOM wasn't announced probably to avoid laughter/ridicule that would have followed.
    Thank god it's over!!!
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