Newcastle v West Ham Match Thread - Saturday 26th August - 15:00

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  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Bilic needs to go

    He's a poor manager who over achieved in his first season

    Can gut the whole coaching staff as they aren't showing us anything
  • imagelostimagelost
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    Bilic needs to go

    He's a poor manager who over achieved in his first season

    Can gut the whole coaching staff as they aren't showing us anything

    It looks that way,,, just thinking about Europe cup
    What a joke
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    We are lacking identity but that is understandable when you have a) chronic injury/fitness issues. b) sold your best player last season, c)have had to deal with the whole OS debacle. We need balance, cohesion and trust in what we need to do, at the minute it isnt quite working and isnt there. Support the manager and let him work with his players to correct the problems because it is solvable internally; changing managers will only be yet another short term fix to a problem and one to further destabilise and set the club back.

    No doubt today was poor and a bad performance. we are mentally vulnerable now and the 2nd goal killed us just shortly after making some positives subs. However other clubs had had similar starts and it is still so early on in the season. Lets focus on the last few days of the transfer window, Work with the players during the international break and hope our injury/fitness conditions will be much better 2 weeks down the line (Reid, Collins, Ogbonna, Kouyate, Lanzini, Obiang, Antonio, Carroll, Sakho all fit into the category). Have faith.
  • alderzalderz
    Noble just got interviewed on Sky and said that he thinks they've been impacted by the travelling over pre season and then only away games.

    I'm sorry, but that really isn't good enough. 4 games into the season, how are they fatigued enough to get turned over by Newcastle?
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Noble is impacted whenever he plays football.
    He is a major reason that the club never moves forwards. He was finished when Nolan left , why is he stilll here?
  • HammerdublinHammerdublin
    edited August 2017
    Huttonhammer said:

    Noble is impacted whenever he plays football.
    He is a major reason that the club never moves forwards. He was finished when Payet left, why is he still here?

    Fixed it for you. :)
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Hammer

    True. I am so upset I cannot type properly.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Simple fact is 3 games gone we already have conceeded 10 goals with 2 of those teams having struggled to make any sort of scoring chances

    No more excuses
    Bilic should be sacked

    Preseason is only about fitness some said.....well the players don't look fit and tactically NOTHING has been improved....so what was preseason for

    And Noble blaming the travelling is a joke and he should feel embarrassed for saying that, almost every team jet off to several countries for preseason
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    With a heavy heart I must say that was 1 of the the most disappointing performances I've seen in a long while.. Will be intersted to see what Iron Herb made of it being there, but on tv they looked very poor against a poor team...
    Huddersfield game IMO massive for Slav.....
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    IMG_0450
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Conceding late goals when chasing the game is a sign of the times in modern day football which is largely based around counter attacking and a deep defensive shape. Its the gamble you make when you are chasing the game. Looks great if you pull a goal back or manage to equalise, looks bad if you dont and the score 1 or 2 more.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Another 90 minutes of wasted time for me.

    Surely this is something the manager is paid to get sorted, and he isn't doing it.
    I never wanted Bilic and I still don't - roll on the next manager ASAP please
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I didn't.

    Then I did.

    Then I didn't.

    Then I did.

    Now I don't.


    ;fence
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    tomkinsworldclass said:

    Conceding late goals when chasing the game is a sign of the times in modern day football which is largely based around counter attacking and a deep defensive shape. Its the gamble you make when you are chasing the game. Looks great if you pull a goal back or manage to equalise, looks bad if you dont and the score 1 or 2 more.

    We weren't really chasing the game though.
  • Putney_HammerPutney_Hammer
    #bilicout enough is enough how with the players we have we are that rubbish is down to him. Thanks Slav another weekend ruined ;angry
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Outcast ;ok
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Expat ;ok
    I get ur view and opinion , however I was happy with Bilic being appointed and gave him last season as a new start at our new home ....
    Sadly the 1st 3 games of this season couldn't have gone worse, but today was the icing on the cake IMO , there was not 1 positive to take out of that, that's sad in itself...

    I don't want to get rid of him yet, and hope that they at least give him a " home " game, but as my patience wears out you have to think the 2 D's might feel the same...

    Re Noble- have never slated him on here, but today it was clear to see that he is past his best......
  • HamstewHamstew
    They've managed to depress me even though I'm in Mallorca. Dread to think how those travelling away fans feel.
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Outcast, we were behind in the game. Its not defending the performance but just in terms of the "goals conceded" issues/stat, it can be inflated as we were behind and more open to counter which is the main thread of modern day football.
  • imagelostimagelost
    Pants
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    I will be happy to take over as manager of this club.

    I have managed in a number of big financial institutions and never failed.

    I would sell Andy and Mark immediately and not put up with no effort or passion and I would play two up front and a strong midfield .

    What is going on at this club cannot be tolerated any longer.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Hutton,

    Not sure you could do any worse
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    and on the bright side ................... BFS only works January to May ;lol
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    Get him in ;bowdown

    EErrrr nurse...nurse...NURSE
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Hamstew

    I am also currently in Majorca and am going out in Andraitx tonight .

    It's going to be a big one!!
  • stevesteve
    ;hmm missed the man u game and this one for stupid family stuff .now I love family stuff .however will be around for huddesfield and expect a lot better .I do feel we did not get enough pre season games where most of the other teams had far more. and much harder ones to .which sharpens you up .things better turn and in a hurry .two weeks off might not be such a bad thing at lest for us fans
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Players that play for this club on the whole think it's an easy life and just take the money.
    Players like Bobby Moore , Scott Parker are few and far between . Mark Noble has a passion for this club but has never really been good enough for the Premier league.
    Others flit in and out but we deserve much more from our players.
    Until players care as much for the club as we do we will always struggle. I work harder in my job every day than all the current West Ham players and they only play a few hours a week.

    How on earth can West Ham players command such salaries they are a joke!!
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Once again Bilic says they were more determined, fought for second balls etc etc. What on earth are they doing about it. The last time we lost our first 3 we were relegated because we never really recovered. Bilic has been manager for 79 PL games and we've conceded 3 or more in 18 of those almost 25%. Therefore it's obvious he has absolutely no idea and is clearly out of his depth.
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    Groundhog Day all over again. Anyone remember Reece Oxford playing 1 and a half games as defensive midfielder 2 years ago and then dropped. Now Rice will go the same way. Remember Arbeloa coming in with a fanfare and gave us nothing - now we have Zabeleta.
    Got to go back to 3 at the back, Obiang and Kouyate in the middle, Byram on the right, Cresswell on the left and 2 up top, hopefully Carroll and Hernandez. And then stick to the same team for a while. Bilic has been chopping and changing for too long.
    Sadly I have to agree that Noble has run his race and that Lanzini is not the gem we think he is. Can we please splash the cash and get Ross Barkley, not Carvalo.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    That was shocking and the first of the results this season that has me worried. When we played Man Utd we were outclassed and rightly so when you compare squads, Soton I felt we did well to almost salvage something after silly autos red card and showed commitment..............However today I felt they in no way had a better squad but played with purpose and with a plan where as we seemed to just have a collection of players on the pitch and were hoping to make something happen.

    With regard Squad I think Fernandez is squad calibre at present but not a starter just yet, I think Noble is not good enough and were he not such a strong personality and Captain I doubt he would start also. Ayew definitely has it but does his best to keep it hidden whenever he can, so in all I think we are fielding three players at least which are making us vulnerable.

    It is too early to panic and all games have been away but we know all too well just how quick a lack of confidence can lead to a crisis.

    A few days of the window left to bring someone in and a international break to go to work on the training ground, get to it now Slav as you may be on borrowed time now.
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