Hull Away on April Fools Day

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  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I think sacking Slav now would be a mistake but when he says that conceding from a late set piece was hard to take because we'd defended well, passed it around well and created some good chances, it worries me. Either he's not being honest or he seriously cannot see how poor we are playing for most of most games.
    I still believe a large part of the problem is our coaching staff are really not up to it and have no idea what to do.
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Think he'll be gone by the end of the weekend. That's the word on the street at any rate...
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    I just dont see how we are safe? Honestly can't see any games we are going to pick points from. We have as i said previously a few weeks ago, have relegation fighting teams and top half teams who we haven't beaten in the league at all this season?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I just for the life of me cannot understand how two players in Fonte and Snodgrass can arrive at the club right at the top of their respective games and INSTANTLY be ;hmm as soon as they put a West Ham shirt on. It's not as though we we even got one or two decent games out of either.

    If that alone doesn't tell you something is deeply wrong right at the heart of the club I don't know what will.
  • Putney_HammerPutney_Hammer
    Arsenal will batter us Swansea will beat us riots at the Spurs game and back in the championship with 20 k watching in a 57k stadium the future is looking great just like the 3 idiots who run our club promised us. ;angry
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    The traditionalists say "It's the West Ham Way" to not aspire to be amongst the top 6 and winning trophies, as we can't compete with the teams that do that season after season financially. I am becoming tired of having my dreams fade and die, I want us to be more successful, and no I am not going to support Chelsea etc, after many decades of following us it's high time we got people who can back us to go to the next level, we managed it in 1986. On December 20 2014 we were Fourth, yes Fourth, so what changed? We will I fear slip a little further down the league hopefully not by too much. ;pray

    Slav has got to stop coming out with these excuses about not being able to defend set pieces. He and his coaching team need to sort it or we will be forced to find someone who can. I hope we can find enough points to stave off the drop but IF we do a MAJOR change is need with the squad, money needs to be spent. The owners got there nice big Athletics, sorry, Football stadium now put a team out there to do it justice. ;angry
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    That's the trouble. I don't think our coaching team is anywhere near good enough for the PL. if we survive, and I think we might just, it will be by teams below us having a few bad games. Problem is we are only 6 points outside the bottom 3 and in free fall at the moment but I don't think the team or staff realise the severity of the situation.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    thornburyiron said:

    I don't think the team or staff realise the severity of the situation.

    I would be amazed if that were the case.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    They'd be pretty stupid if the don't by now but they've given no indication of it by the way they've been playing
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited April 2017
    Slav has had almost two years to bring some sort of sanity to our defence and has pretty much failed (barring a short ginge period last year). He's had the likes of Reid, oggy, Fonte, ginge to work with. Yet no signs whatsoever of progress in that area - quite the reverse in fact.

    Last season those frailties were masked by a freakishly good offensive signing who created and scored for fun. Without him, now things are unravelling and quickly so.
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    A bit too much doom here. We bossed the 1st half and were poor in the 2nd, mainly because they changed from 5 to 4 at the back. Bilic did not react soon enough - Fernandes or Noble should have been on sooner. I felt sorry for Lanzini playing in central midfield with only Kouyate behind him. So many here have slagged Noble off but we really missed him today, alongside Kouyate.
    Cannot believe we paid so much for Ayew - what exactly does he do ? Feghouli and Snodgrass seem inadequate too.
    Lets go back to 5 at the back with 2 holding midfielders (hard to break down), with Lanzini behind Carroll + 1 other, ideally Antonio but if injured then Fletcher.
    We can stay up, defo.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    MrsGrey said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    NE. I think you may be right. I can see the board acting, to be honest. Results and performances have been very poor for too long.

    We need two wins to get somewhere near safe. Can't see where they're coming from at the moment.

    A new manager often brings instant results. I think someone may be given the chance...

    So a new manager might get us 6 points, or keep us safe. (Sam anyone?)
    But it doesn't mean they'll be the right manager to help build the club for the next 5 years. So you end up sacking that one. (Di canio, anyone?)

    Seriously - gotta take the long term view.

    A couple of seasons ago, we were all ;weep 'cos we couldn't score goals.

    Now, we can. Only 3 games in the league all season where we haven't scored. (Leicester, Man City, Man U).

    Need to sort out the 'defend as a team' thing.

    Upwards and onwards, rather than 'default to factory settings'. Because then it's always one step forward, 2 steps back.

    Unless you (one) really think he has no hope of building a team that can consistently do OK.

    In which case, no point hanging about.
    Mrs G, I'm not saying I want Bilic sacked. I'm saying I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was. I doubt the board are looking 5 years into the future right now. Staying in the Premier League will be their priority and I think they'll do whatever they think it will take. Sticking with Bilic, given the way things have gone lately and with Arsenal on Wednesday, is looking rather risky where that is concerned.
  • HantshammerHantshammer
    Putney_Hammer said:

    Arsenal will batter us Swansea will beat us riots at the Spurs game and back in the championship with 20 k watching in a 57k stadium the future is looking great just like the 3 idiots who run our club promised us. ;angry

    Sounds like a spurs fan - So negative. Do you do winning lottery numbers too?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Puddling

    The problem is whichever system we play and whichever personnel fill the positions we concede lots of appalling goals.

    So it can't be a personnel thing and it can't be a formation thing either? Which begs the question what can it be?

    Rightly so, IMO, a lot of people are deeply concerned, me included..
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Puddle why should their changing their system make us play poorly. It may make them play better but shouldn't make us suddenly not know to play unless tactically we are and were clueless.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    OCS ;ok

    I was kind of pointing out the thinking of why I don't want him sacked, and the circumstances in which I can see why someone would... but also the need (imo) to look beyond the short-term.
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    This side is going down on this form
    I cannot see anything slaven can do that
    He hasn't already tried he's lost too many
    Games playing some terrible football imo

    I don't see him lasting much longer we need to change something fast this side
    Has no backbone simple no way a week
    On the training pitch after the last load of rubbish in the first half against Leicester
    Has made any difference from what I can
    See utter rubbish, no midfield today I'm
    Gutted.
  • HantshammerHantshammer
    If he was playing our best full strength team every week I might agree. We haven't had the luxury of a consistent first team though. I do agree that some of our signings have been less than ideal but sacking the manager is not the answer in my opinion.
  • Putney_HammerPutney_Hammer
    Hantshammer said:

    Putney_Hammer said:

    Arsenal will batter us Swansea will beat us riots at the Spurs game and back in the championship with 20 k watching in a 57k stadium the future is looking great just like the 3 idiots who run our club promised us. ;angry

    Sounds like a spurs fan - So negative. Do you do winning lottery numbers too?
    Just upset mate venting is good for your health ;ok
  • HantshammerHantshammer
    No probs Putney- let's hope it all comes good eh? ;scarf ;ok
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Don't go down the we were missing xyz. Even with those players we wete getting beat.
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    edited April 2017
    Hull's goalscorers Andrew Robertson and Andrea Ranocchia scored their first ever Premier League goals, by netting in this match.
    Of course they did, that's the West Ham way. ;biggrin

    West Ham have lost 20 points from winning positions in the Premier League this season, the most of any side in the competition. Shocking statistic ;weep

    And our previous star defender, Post, was absolutely rooted to the spot for their 2nd. ;biggrin ;yercoat
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Swansea at home is a must win now we lose that and we are in serious trouble
  • everhopefuleverhopeful
    Perhaps Post is seeking to engineer a move away in the summer transfer window?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    No. He's an upright member of our squad and wouldn't do that.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    NE as were our defenders but they did have the opportunity to move.
  • secrethammersfansecrethammersfan
    IronHerb said:

    No. He's an upright member of our squad and wouldn't do that.

    Very wooden defending at times, though.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    shf

    I wooden say that...
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    edited April 2017
    I thought the defence was very splintered. Do you think that Slav wood try a different set up against Arsenal?
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    I think we need to play our wildcard or at least the bench boost....

    On the premise that Ayew, Snodgrass, Carroll and Lanzini (and Antonio if fit to play yesterday) would all walk into Hulls team, I still dont understand why we couldnt outscore them... Surely more than 1 goal anyway. Defensive weakness throughout the team and not just at the back you say? Agreed....
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