Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • If we bought Lukaku and left him on the bench, that would give us 4-6 points more per season -close to Tevez-like heroics!
  • Twist

    It isn't net spend. I thought I made that clear in previous replies to you. Perhaps you didn't read them.

    The simple fact is that our spending matches any of our realistic rivals in the 2 years since Slav got here. He has had the same chance, or better, than other managers of similar clubs to spend money to improve the squad.

    If the squad isn't better, that is down to how the money was spent, not that it wasn't made available.
  • Grey, so transfers is all down to the manager now? Sullivan has openly said in the past that a team works behind the scenes on transfers.

    (You said about how much he has had to spend... without mentioning the players we have sold. Which is quite an important part IMO )

    I'm not saying Bilic deserves a free pass, because of course he is to blame as well. But so are the board. This is just my opinion though ;ok
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    Twist

    You can blame who you want.

    But if you persist in claiming that the board have not backed Slav with proper funds, you are flying in the face of the evidence.
  • But twist, isn't the point that he has been backed with a reasonable amount of funds for new players, when compared to other clubs?

    Whether or not the board could have given him more - that isn't really the point?

    Unless you are arguing at cross-purposes. ;hmm
  • I believe Slav has been pretty well backed. You could say the daves needed to pull out one or two £30m signings to shift us towards the top 7 or 8, but the fact is probably that may be beyond them. Which is fair enough, it's their club. The real problem is we can't seem to fill any of our first team positions with players who have come through the junior ranks (putting aside the noble argument). Which in theory means they need to shell £10m plus on each and every position to make a decent fist of things (plus more to create a squad). It just ain't gonna happen.
  • West Ham are interested in signing Arsenal's 28-year-old Spanish forward Lucas Perez this summer. (Times - subscription required)

    The Hammers are also considering a move to sign Juventus and Croatia striker Mario Mandzukic, 30. (Sun)
  • Actually like Perez, think he deserved a chance at arsenal he seemed good the little he's played

    Only problem is hes more of a second striker then lone front man but if he's affordable then I'd be keen

    Mandzukic is out of our league I think but hopefully Bilic can convince him
  • Grey ;ok

    I think something else interesting is that only one of Leicester's new signings can currently make their first team. They spent an absolute fortune and didn't improve their side.
  • For what it's worth, I just took a look at the net spend this season for every club, according to Transfermarkt. Only 5 teams had a greater net spend than us, and two of those are below us in the table currently. I even made it into a handy little graph.

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    The other thing that people commonly mention is that other clubs are regularly paying significantly higher fees for players, the old 'marquee' signing thing. So, the table below shows the largest fee spend on a player by each club this season, and the % that signing made up of their overall spend.

    You'll notice that we are 10th, with the traditional big clubs (Utd, City, Arsenal, LIverpool, Chelsea & Spurs) the top 6. Leicester were in the Champions League and had cash to blow, so I think the only comparable ones above as are Everton and Palace.

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    So, basically, we spend in line with or more than the majority of our competitors. The issue this season simply isn't that we didn't spend money. Because we did. Loads of it.
  • We blew it all on duds. Chasing players of a quality that is Lower end of the PL scale not of an ilk to get us top half and move onwards.
  • Yeold ;ok

    Completely agree. But that doesn't mean that we didn't have money, it means it wasn't spent wisely, which is a totally different complaint.

    As an aside, I (personally) cannot be too frustrated about the players we signed, because individually I agreed with almost all of the signings (I had my reservations about Tore, Calleri & Zaza, but the rest I was happy with).
  • Spot on yeold - if you take out of the equation the enforced purchases of snodgrass and Fonte the only changes to last season have been Feghouli and ayew. And ayew hasn't started much. The rest of them have hardly impacted the first team in a positive way
  • I thought Feghouli would be good from what I had seen from his time at Valencia.

    Wasn't convinced by Zaza even during the Euros he looked Pony. Tore seemed like a gamble considering all the rubbish that seemed to have come with him "Sakho mk 2" again didn't seem like a player we should recruit.

    Ayew just seemed a panic buy after everything else fell through. I think he's a top quality player, and sorry i'm sure people will point out at Swansea he played up top though I dispute this... His best position whenever I had seem him play was on the left of a front 3, or tucked in behind, and we are not using him in either of those positions or even at all.

    Masuaku I actually think did okay before he got injured.

    January window still think Fonte and Snodgrass were poor signings. Can understand why as a replacement for Ogbonna and Payet. But I don't think shelving the 8m for a 33 year old and Snodgrass who imo isn't a top 10 player. Just didn't seem like good money spent.
  • Fonte is an accomplished CB, current International, EuropeanChampion and is probably thinking, like the most of us, why hasn't he got a RB next to him.
  • Portugal played trash one of the worst winners of the Euros to have ever happened. An achievement of luck akin to Chelsea winning the Champs league by sitting on their goal line against Barca and Bayern if I remember right.
  • Yeold

    Yeah but he was in their defence, so if they won based on playing defensively that's not exactly a bad thing for him to have been involved in.
  • West Ham are considering a move for Sampdoria's 25-year-old forward Luis Muriel as the club continue their search for a new striker. (Daily Mirror)
  • We have been linked with that fella for about 6 years now (I remember his name as he flopped for me on Football Manager).
  • Hopefully he becomes a star and scores with his bonce. Would love to see rerun of Muriels Heading ;ok ;wahoo ;yercoat
  • McHammer

    Now I need to go and get my toes professionally uncurled...
  • It's funny, but I actually think we have the RB we have needed in Byram.

    For me, our biggest issues are GK, DM & ST.
  • I like Byram, the boy wants it and quite and he's not bottling out of anything like Cressie is right now (start playing Artur)

    We've not had a settled defence all season and this is th result.

    Regarding the money Luke, I don't think it's anyone saving or not spending anything, we just don't have it yet

    I can only think their reason to defer the repayment of their loans for 3 years is because they won't be able to use payday anymore? So we will need to have the money for transfers up front.

    I don't expect the Daves to reach into their pockets anymore, yes it would be nice but frankly I don't want them taking interest either.

    We simply don't have the cashlow yet, it will take a couple of years
  • I think most of our team are bang average. How many of our players get into a match day squad in the top 6. Tells you all you need to know about how far we are away from top 6. Hell top 10....
  • Yeold

    For me, last season for us was a freak, not unlike Leicester's.

    We aren't anywhere near top 6 quality, and we weren't last season either.

    We are a mid-table club, with ambitions of looking up not down. That doesn't come in a single purchase, or a couple of transfer windows.

    If people were basing their expectations this season on repeating last year, then no wonder they are disappointed.
  • Trouble is Gman the owners have fuelled the fire with the next level stuff and all the bluster about marque signings (SMH)

  • a two man tent would have been a start , we started with a sleeping bag

    Don't run before you can walk Mr Sullivan ;ok
  • Did they say next level this season?
  • you have to buy quality and spend big to break into the top six , on Saturday

    3 of our new players where on the pitch 36.5m worth not value for money in my mind panic buys and one late signing to cover LB .

    imo you need to spend 36.5m on one player up front not 2 average players .

    just saying .

    we will clear out in the summer maybe raising 30/40 m I can see if this was the case us spending 90/100m that's what needs to happen probably not but we will see.
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