Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

IronHerbIronHerb
edited February 2017 in Transfer Speculation
OK. January has been and gone and now the Summer Window approaches.
Poor Summer Window last year so this one needs to be a big improvement.
RB and Striker are still the main targets but no more than 5 new players for me.
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  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Lacezette talking up leaving Lyon in the summer ;hmm
  • alderzalderz
    I think he'll be out of our league without any European football tbh. I think what's more likely is him going to one of the big teams and one of them selling on their squad players.

    I can see the likes of Batshuayi, Giroud, Sturridge, Iheanacho being available in the summer tbh.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Let's not even go there with Lacazette - there'd be a very long queue and we'd be near the back of it

    And I would imagine the bidding would start at £50m
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited February 2017
    Reckon City are more likely to flog Aguero and keep Iheanacho.
  • alderzalderz
    Possibly.

    I would imagine Aguero & Jesus will be there main two and Iheanacho won't get a look in for the rest of the season. Think he'll go out on loan in the summer.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    a Few players from teams potentially going down I would take a look at.
  • alderzalderz
    Yeold ;ok

    Sigurdsson, Robertson, Tomkins ;ok
  • alderzalderz
    The LB from Hull Vorse ;ok I think he's quality
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Traore (if its even possible to get him with Chelsea looking)
    Vardy (probably not a popular choice but I think on a reasonable deal would be another good option imo)
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Hull left back. Very good player. We wanted him in the summer but he was too expensive.

    Priority remains right back and striker, in that order.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Shouldn't this now be Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation?

    I'll open a new thread.

    ;run
  • alderzalderz
    I agree on keeping the number of changes low. Too much change causes disruptions (typically) ;ok

    These players are out of contract in the summer:

    Alvaro Arbeloa (RB)
    Gokhan Tore (FW)
    Jonathan Calleri (ST)

    None of these are players that trouble the first team squad, so I don't think we need to be looking at new players to specifically replace them.

    We also have a few players out on loan who you might expect to bolster the squad for next season:

    Reece Burke (DC)
    Reece Oxford (DC)
    Josh Cullen (MC)
    Enner Valencia (FW)
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I want to end every transfer window with two strong players for every position. At the moment we have the below:

    GK – Randy/Adrian
    RB – Byram
    LB – Cresswell/Masuaku
    RCB – Fonte/Collins
    LCB - Reid/Ogbonna
    RCM – Noble/Kouyate
    LCM – Obiang/Nordtveit
    RWM – Antonio/Feghouli
    LWM – Snodgrass/Ayew
    AM – Lanzini/Ayew
    CF – Carroll/Sakho


    So based on this I think we need a right back and a striker (as our best two strikers are not the most reliable). There are a number of variables (how good is Masuaku, will Cullen, Oxford, Martinez, Browne be involved in the first team, will Adrian leave), but based on what we know now, it’s obvious, to me at least, where our priorities should be.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Do you want me to move over comments and close the January thread?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I think so, yes. ;ok
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Sorry have to disagree about Tomkins, would not want him back..
    He is a ok defender but IMO that's it...I've watched many Palace games this season, he certainly hasn't impressed, albeit in a struggling team.
    While I was disappointed he left, I personally think it was a good decision...
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    I was disappointed when Tomkins left, but now he`s gone I would rather give either of the Reeces a go. OCS, you could put both Kouyate and Antonio as second/third choice in most of the positions.
    I hope the Daves don`t come out with any of this "marquee" nonsense this window. If we can hang on to our main players then 2--3 quality additions is all we would need. Good solid premier league players or the very best from the championship. And I would definitely not want Vardy at West Ham. I don`t know why, but I just don`t like him. Traore would be a very exciting signing. ;footie
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    As things stand, I would lose:

    Adrian
    Valencia
    Nordveit
    Tore
    Sakho
    Calleri
    Possibly masuaku

    And I would look to try and buy

    Hart
    Will Hughes
    Robertson if hull get relegated
    A right back - we may need to pay over the odds, but maybe trippier
    A striker

    And start to involve Cullen and Oxford in the first team squad.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Madcap ;ok You could, but I don’t want players to have to fill in. Kouyate can do a job at centre back. Looks like he can do it at right back, too. But he’s at his best in centre midfield and that’s where I want to see him play. Same with Antonio; he can play at right back (but isn’t great there), and can play up front, but he’s most effective on the wing.

    I’ve had enough of making do.

    I want a right back.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Just been doing a bit of google research on full backs from the championship and both the Wolves fullbacks come highly rated. Matt Doherty and Dominic Iorfa. Both versatile as well by the sound of it and both a good age. My dad supports Wolves so I`ll have a word later. Apart from Adebayor I can`t think who would be available and in our price bracket to fill the vacant striker role.

    ;hmm
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    We were linked with Iorfa, both in the summer and last month. Could be one to watch. I guess much depends on how Byram does in the coming months as to whether we look for a back up or a starting right back.
  • alderzalderz
    Wasn't sure where to put this, but ;clap

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38897910
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Team needs a huge clear out to be fair and then we need to add 3 Top Quality players in my opinion to push on.

    Could easily move on (including Loans currently) about 7 or 8 players which would free up a Significant amount in wages. With probably no Europe we wouldn't need a huge squad if we are bringing in a few youngsters at the same time.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    "With probably no Europe" we will struggle to "add 3 Top Quality players".

    The reality is that when it comes to attracting players we are not in competition with Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Man City, Tottenham or Liverpool, we are in competition with Everton, Stoke, West Brom and possibly Newcastle if they get promoted.

    As for "easily move on (including Loans currently) about 7 or 8 players" we failed to "move on" Sakho in the summer so obviously its not that easy
  • alderzalderz
    Yeold

    When you say "huge clearout" what do you mean? Personally, I feel it needs a tweak and not a lot else. If you're talking about clearing out some of the squad players and bringing in new first teamers then I agree, but I'm just confused by "huge".

    GK: Adrian, Randolph
    CD: Collins, Reid, Fonte, Ogbonna
    DR: Byram
    DL: Cresswell, Masuaku
    MC: Noble, Kouyate, Obiang, Fernandes, Nordtveit
    WG: Antonio, Snodgrass, Valencia, Feghouli
    AM: Lanzini, Ayew
    ST: Carroll, Sakho, Fletcher

    To me, there isn't a "huge" clearout required. I would want upgrades at DR, MC, WG & ST, but otherwise I can't see massive of change needed.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    #wildcard
  • LukerzLukerz
    There is an argument that all of the summer signings could be moved on. Feghouli, Calleri, Arbeloa, Masuaku, Nordtveit, Fernandes...

    For me they've offered very little to the squad. I think Ayew will come good and we did spend £20m on him.

    Then you have Fletcher, who could do with a loan move. Adrian may be let go (even though we have an extension option).

    But to me all those summer buys are on trial. They aren't all kids. Nord and Feghouli are experienced pros.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited February 2017
    Randolph
    Kouyate - Fonte - Reid
    Antonio - Noble - Obiang - Cresswell
    Lanzini - Snodgrass
    Carroll

    Is a solid staring XI (picked three at the back as it incorporated all those players).

    The bench is a bit empty:

    GK (Adrian), Ogbonna, Byram, CM, WG (Feghouli), Ayew, ST

    So we may need a GK, RB, CM, WG and ST as a minimum, with the aim that they are all good enough to get into the first XI.

    To be honest, I'd be happy with those five quality players and nothing else.
  • alderzalderz
    For me, the way to improve the squad as a whole is to sign the best players from the Championship, or the better players from our direct competitors. This is something we've done with relative success in the last few years (Cresswell, Randolph, Antonio, Snodgrass, Fonte). The other market that we often look at are the squad players from bigger clubs (Carroll, Downing, Ogbonna).

    With that in mind, and the considering the positions I think we we need strengthening in, I would like to consider the following:

    DR: Dominic Iorfa (Wolves), Adam Smith (Bournemouth), Kieran Trippier (Tottenham)

    MC: Will Hughes (Derby), Ryan Woods (Brentford), Harry Arter (Bournemouth)

    ST: Britt Assombalonga (Nottingham Forest), Scott Hogan (Brentford), Jermain Defoe (Sunderland), Michy Batshuayi (Chelsea)
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited February 2017


    *keeping in mind this is if we want to go to the next level i.e getting on the coat tails of the top 6* not necessarily finishing top 6.

    GK: Adrian, Randolph <-- one needs to go (probably Adrian at this point) and a Top Draw keeper needs to come in (though I don't see anyone gettable) </font color=red>
    CD: Collins, Reid, Fonte, Ogbonna <--- Ogbonna and Collins to go with 1 Top Draw CB coming in and bringing through Oxford / Burke <color=red>
    DR: Byram <--- Need another Top Draw Right back. <color=red>
    DL: Cresswell, Masuaku <--- This is fine providing both stay for now. <color=red>
    MC: Noble, Kouyate, Obiang, Fernandes, Nordtveit <--- Move on Nordveit and bring through Cullen ? not sure we need another CM / DM to buy though. <color=red>
    WG: Antonio, Snodgrass, Valencia, Feghouli <--- Move on Valencia, re-assess Feghouli in these next few months then see what kind of offers come in to see if he is worth keeping or looking at another Winger or if he is good enough for the next campaign. <color=red>
    AM: Lanzini, Ayew <--- Persist with both, though see what kind of offers Ayew comes in for nothing less than what we got him for though. Would replace Ayew with Siggurddson if there was ever a chance to. Or move Ayew to the empty Valencia spot if we can move him on, where I think he actually plays and bring in Siggurdsson <color=red>
    ST: Carroll, Sakho, Fletcher <--- Move on one of the two Injury Prone players and bring in a Top Draw Striker. <color=red>

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