Nuno - twist or stick?

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  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    edited October 25
    Pray tell @IronHerb?

    ASLEF, That's not to say there are now better managers available as we are known for not choosing to buy managers out of their contracts?
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited October 25
    @ASLEFshrugged perhaps there are some managers now available who weren’t previously.
    Managers that have left their last positions.
    I’m sure there would be a few wanting to prove a point, but who knows, like I said many times before it’s not my problem / decision to make.

    That’s for the owners 👍🏻⚒️
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    For the ‘twist’ group we are not alone 🤣⚒️
    https://www.livescore.com/en/news/football/england-championship/could-nuno-espirito-santo-be-handed-the-west-ham-sack-after-dramatic-southampton-win-saints-marching/
  • LukerzLukerz
    Stick - it’s not even a tough call IMO
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited October 25
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Who are the expensive mistakes buffy?
    One of our players is currently the top goalscorer in the Bundesliga!

    I'll give you Kilman for starters. And yes, Fullkrug was a big mistake as he's not suited to play in the PL, certainly not for a team that isn't dominating possession. There's a whole host of players that we paid a lot of money for that NES inherited that weren't really any use to him, such as JWP, Todibo and Guilhermes, there's no getting away from the fact that our recruitment has largely been dreadful for far too long. Yes, we get some right, but we can't afford the howlers that we've made in the transfer market.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    I can’t argue with Kilman. Fullkrug isn’t the first good striker to be sawn off by the managers tactics 👍.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    Fortuneseeker said:

    I can’t argue with Kilman. Fullkrug isn’t the first good striker to be sawn off by the managers tactics 👍.

    But if they don't work for the tactics we employ, then they're mistakes. Not necessarily bad players, but mistakes nonetheless.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Yes buffy big mistakes by whoever does the scouting - Haller, Scamacca & Fullkrug all strikers who could have been good signings for us but didn't play the way the manager wanted.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    Bearing in mind this is now a discussion on NES, all I was saying is that he's been really hindered by so much of the recruitment that happened before he arrived.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Was done with Nuno last season when he bottled it with going 5 at the back in a must win game against Newcastle, that we could have got relegated before the final game had Spurs beaten Chelsea. Definition of bottling it to set up your team with 5 at the back in a must win game shows me everything I need to know about the managers approach to the real crunch games.

    As far as this season goes however, I am not too fussed on his current position at the club, I just want to see most of the players moved on. I get why the club kept him and have no qualms with the clubs decision even if my personal decision is the opposite.

    Magassa / Alvarez / Taty / Areola (Having 100k+ in wages on a keeper on the bench is ludicrous) / Todibo get out perm / Cornet / Fullkrug get out perm / Mavro (sold end of season regardless of going up or not) / Kilman (sold end of season regardless of going up or not) / AWB get out perm / Boiro (send him back).

    From a personal point of view I am quite happy for Nuno to stay around to clear out this lot then move him on for someone who can build a proper squad and doesn't bottle the crunch games with some awful formations and selections.

    Club has to focus on getting in players who have a minimum work rate that matches Pablo's across the entire pitch, any player who cannot match a similar level of work rate, isn't fit for the club regardless of their "supposed ability."
    Once that basic necessity has been reached we can then look at discussing players of the ilk that Brentford / Brighton / Bournemouth sides sign, technical flair players with said workrate to boot to improve the team. If it has to coincide with a promise that said player can bounce in 2 years time, I am perfectly fine with such an arrangement I.E if Austbo wants to move higher up to bigger clubs and he produces the goods over 2 seasons then that's completely fine in my books, at least we have clarity for the future from both the player and club side.

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