Millwall vs West Ham; 12:30 Saturday 19th September

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  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    Another free-kick given away in a dangerous position.
  • alderzalderz
    Stupid from Mavropanos
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    A chance for Millwall, but blasted over.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Ref has been so one sided today IMO.we need FT ASAP.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    2-2 FT, happy after the dreadful 1st half, even when we were on top I said I'd take a point.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Cant believe we got a point after that 1st half, but if Kante didnt have 2 errors we'd have gone on to win

    Even when we play awful we get points, we'll go up this season got no doubt about that
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Also Spurs lost 3-1
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer

    Kante showed the best and worst of his game.
    We certainly are better with Pablo in the team.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited September 19
    We'll take a point.
    Ref Tierney IMO was atrocious....
    Wonder if there will any further action re Taty and the possible spit...
    I'm happy with a point, but we were really rubbish for 65 minutes.....
    That game for me is a bonus point because IMO we didn't probably deserve it, even though we were on top for the last 25 minutes.....
    Oh well....Strange game badly reffed, that kind of reffing frustrates the players and spectators and he's so experienced he should have done better IMO.
    MOTM a very tricky one IMO.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Funny how two players who weren’t great saved us with their goals. Glad we’ve got a point from that as most players weren’t great at all. Especially the same three of the back four.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    jay_in_cpt said:

    We'll take a point.
    Ref Tierney IMO was atrocious....

    Absolutely abysmal
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    At the end of the day, knowing the Den would be a cauldron and that Millwall would be up for this one, I would have taken a point from the start.

    It was unlikely they could keep up that level of intensity but I am nonetheless delighted that we stuck at it and got back on level terms from being two down.

    An entertaining game with a fair result, they bossed the first half and we the second, as for Kante, I thought he made a real difference but obviously has to take responsibility for the red card, no one wishes to see it but he gave himself no choice.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    One thing for Kante is I think other players didn’t do a good job in showing for the ball and helping him out. That’s why he lingers too long. But he should have just hoofed it upfield instead of looking for the short pass.
  • stevesteve
    Kante will be great for us this season made a real differance .Shame about the red but should learn from it
  • epsom_bubblesepsom_bubbles
    With VAR that game might have been unrecognisable from the game we saw
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Is it a 3 game ban for Kante?
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    OutcastLondoner said:

    One thing for Kante is I think other players didn’t do a good job in showing for the ball and helping him out. That’s why he lingers too long. But he should have just hoofed it upfield instead of looking for the short pass.

    Agree - when you know you are the last man you cannot afford to dither on the ball like that, just asking for trouble
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited September 19
    Yeoldhammer said:

    Is it a 3 game ban for Kante?

    Think just 1 game ban. ( think that falls under DOGSO )
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    epsom_bubbles said:

    With VAR that game might have been unrecognisable from the game we saw

    Think we also might have got away with a penalty as well, but yeh, VAR, it would have been horrendous....

    Paul Tierney should hold his head in shame IMO and the worse thing, the commentator I had, whoever he was, kept on saying what a good game the ref had.....
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    What a match, awful to watch as a West Ham fan, great for the neutral.

    I think the second Millwall goal right on half time done for us and without that we may have won.

    I am not a Pablo fan but I did see the other side of the argument made by those that are today, he made a difference.

    Kante made a difference with his strength and drive. I am a fan as he is only 21but that said he should be given an extra match ban for the way he so needlessly lost that ball!

    Kilman needs replacing, if he was kept away from every match in the Prem I can't see how Nuno has faith in him to get us back up. His lack of replacement is the only blight on otherwise good transfer business.

    Bowen was poor today and didn't look the high end player we know he is. We also needed a Captain out there today and I don't think anyone would have picked out that Bowen was our Captain today. I am not suggesting we give it to anyone else but in a Millwall derby match I longed for a Noble type captain.

    Lastly I really really hope Tatty didn't spit at anyone. If he did throw the book at him.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    I thought Kilman has been ok this season but he was weak for both goals, especially the first turning his back as he jumped. I think I’d like to see Morato in that position to see if we’re stronger and if it improves Mavropanos, who is utter chaos every game.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    OutcastLondoner said:

    I thought Kilman has been ok this season but he was weak for both goals, especially the first turning his back as he jumped. I think I’d like to see Morato in that position to see if we’re stronger and if it improves Mavropanos, who is utter chaos every game.

    Think the entire XI (barring Mukasa) were weak for the entire 1st half, we got overran in every position
  • alderzalderz
    I think Kilman has been much better than Mavropanos all season. Mavro has more moments but often they are recovering from his own terrible mistakes. Morato is very aggressive, and I think too similar to Mavropanos, personally.
  • Giant_HammerGiant_Hammer
    I believe Mavropanos has scored 4 in the last 5 games. Shove him up front and beat him up every time he wanders into our penalty area. =)
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited September 19
    OutcastLondoner said:

    I thought Kilman has been ok this season but he was weak for both goals, especially the first turning his back as he jumped. I think I’d like to see Morato in that position to see if we’re stronger and if it improves Mavropanos, who is utter chaos every game.

    It didn’t help that for every challenge he was having his shirt held, tbf

    Mavro was far worse than Kilman
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Our whole back 4 IMO were poor today. Some of their passing was so bad I was cringing, thinking a schoolboy could pass better…
    Going forward Mukasa again until he was subbed was our only bright spark…
    Anyhow we somehow got a point in a terrible game to watch IMO…
    I still can’t decide the MOTM…
    Looking forward to seeing Soucek back, sometimes I feel that experience is missing in the middle, not that he’ll be able to play all games, but he’ll certainly contribute.. IMO.
  • alderzalderz
    Soucek will also make a massive difference defending set pieces. We're always much better at it with him in our box.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Just the three pens in the box when we equalised - Taty, Kilman, Engels all having shirts pulled
  • LukerzLukerz
    alderz said:

    Soucek will also make a massive difference defending set pieces. We're always much better at it with him in our box.

    This
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    Giant_Hammer said:

    I believe Mavropanos has scored 4 in the last 5 games. Shove him up front and beat him up every time he wanders into our penalty area. =)

    I know you may have been joking but It really isn't the worst of ideas should the need arise. If you recall his penalties he can really strike a ball and would be a handful at crosses as well. Were we in a match and needing a goal with ten minutes to go I would never be against sending Mavro to play up front.

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