Expat, Why blame VG & AS? DK had plenty of time to pay the agreed amount for the shares he had negotiated for but didn't do so. That left the door open for someone else to make a bigger offer which appears to have happened. That's business and DK appears to have sat back and let this occur?
I would assume that they had a mutually agreed timescale for the deal to go through, not sure, but maybe held up by Companies House for the transfer. Who knows.
Maybe it's just me, but if I had made a deal with DK then I would have stuck with it. When selling houses in the past I have ALWAYS stuck to my original deal even when better offers have came in. One exception was when the buyer suddenly wanted a discount and was not politely informed to go away.
What worries me is that it took only one individual mistake (for the second goal) and Charlton score. Where was the rest of the defence? Too often there is no one backing up, just totally naive defending, and that must be down to Nuno. I don't think Nuno is the man to sort out the problems that exist and I can't see him still here at the end of September unless results drastically improve.
Problem is we still haven't heard anything about how the impasse is being resolved. Meanwhile we aren't performing well on the pitch which has an impact on the value of the club which DS certainly won't like.
We were so poor today.Still a long way to go but it needs to change because we looked weak today.Every team that plays us ( particularly at the LS ) will believe it’s their cup final. We’ve got a target on our back.⚒️ But still madness to talk of sacking the manager after two league games.
Wondering how much responsibility devolves to the analytics team. It's their job to give information to the coach on these new opponents. ( Yes, I know mostly it's on the players, but still.... coach and players are going into the unknown.)
We were so poor today.Still a long way to go but it needs to change because we looked weak today.Every team that plays us ( particularly at the LS ) will believe it’s their cup final. We’ve got a target on our back.⚒️ But still madness to talk of sacking the manager after two league games.
If you are referring to me regarding sacking him for 2 EFL games, I also base it on his complete failure to achieve the goal of keeping us up. last season, he failed.... If I'm honest I was gutted he didn't go before the season started, so my basis is what he's done at our club since being here from last season as well, but I really hope to be proved wrong, and we're all entitled to our own opinions, so each to their own ....
I still believe this isn't the team we will have as a starting eleven once the window closes, for it would be insane to play a centre back pairing that conceded goals like a pub team in the opening third of last season, which we failed to claw our way back from.
There must be a new centre back and centre forward arriving. Which means I am disappointed but not despondent just yet.
Minor panic as my comms said Taty was being taken off.
But they were wrong.
But if Taty had been taken off Bowen would (probably) have taken the penalty without the faffing about and (probably) would have scored. Think I covered my backside sufficiently there
Neither Bowen or Nuno made any reference in their post match interviews to Bowen not taking the penalty. Maybe it was something to do with Taty and the number of consecutive home matches he’d scored in but surely the points should be the major focus. In any event the stupid shuffle up to the ball should be stopped. If not by a rule change but by the manager.
Unfortunately, we currently look like a side that is unsure how to play. We’ve gone from being a ‘sit back & counter attack’ side, to a side that now has 80% possession. Add to this, we have a soft/frail mentality & a lack of leaders - as shown by the two goals we conceded & how we manage the game. Charlton knew they had a chance.
The 4-4-2 may look good on paper, but it isn’t balanced - there is no way of coordinating attack & defence so what we get is 1) CBs having most of the ball (plus Mads) 2) wide players having lots of the ball (which was wasted today by all four of them) & 3) CMs who then continue to go sideways & backwards. This makes our play slow & laboured, gets the crowd annoyed & gives the other side encouragement. One big takeaway, for me, is I think we need to quickly switch to a 4-3-3 in the short term.
When we lose the ball, we are open, & it was so easy for Charlton to get into our defensive third within 3 passes & 15 seconds. When we had the ball, we didn’t know how to attack. Solomon I actually thought was poor - he had so much of the ball, & was indecisive time & again. Scarles had an absolute mare of a game at LB, & we are going to need to sign a new one with Diouf on the way. Engels I felt a bit sorry for. He was clearly not having a great debut, but he never hid, was always showing for the ball, trying to get on the ball & trying to inject impetus into our game. Kanté also struggled, but was always being given the ball when he didn’t need it.
Second half we were improved on the first, mainly because Orford made a big difference & Musaka I thought was lively & knitted things together better, we got the ball to Bowen more (not enough, IMO) but we did not play like a side who will be dominating this league today, but I think this side is going to need 1) a few games & 2) the transfer window to shut, before we start to see things get better. It has certainly shown them this is going to be an incredibly challenging season.
At training Nuno should simply ask for a show of hands of people who feel they can take a penalty without first performing a pirouette or tappy toes rain dance before hitting the ball.
We were so poor today.Still a long way to go but it needs to change because we looked weak today.Every team that plays us ( particularly at the LS ) will believe it’s their cup final. We’ve got a target on our back.⚒️ But still madness to talk of sacking the manager after two league games.
If you are referring to me regarding sacking him for 2 EFL games, I also base it on his complete failure to achieve the goal of keeping us up. last season, he failed.... If I'm honest I was gutted he didn't go before the season started, so my basis is what he's done at our club since being here from last season as well, but I really hope to be proved wrong, and we're all entitled to our own opinions, so each to their own ....
Just out of interest, when you’ve binned Nuno who would you suggest as our manager ?Like immediately?
Coincidentally, another South American (albeit it from Brazil) hit the post with his penalty after tippy, tapping up to the ball - please prance forward and take a bow, Igor Thiago of Brentford.
We have a process in place to replace our managers Slacker, & I am sure we will all agree it hasn't let us down over many years. Just appoint one that is out of work that is "The West Ham Way", well it's DS's way as he refuses to pay compensation for a better one.
We have a process in place to replace our managers Slacker, & I am sure we will all agree it hasn't let us down over many years. Just appoint one that is out of work that is "The West Ham Way", well it's DS's way as he refuses to pay compensation for a better one.
NES Potter Lopetegui Moyes Pellegrini
Yes I know they were free but if those 5 are all experienced in one way or another, the problem is more how different they are in terms of who they were
Talk of replacing Nuno now is nonsense. We had the chance in the summer after relegation, the club & Nuno decided to continue. There is no point entertaining talk of him going & replacements. It’s August.
The game yesterday summed up our frailties in certain areas, mainly CB. Both goals each CB was partly responsible for. All the club can do is sign another one. It’s not Nuno’s fault Mavropanos tripped over his own feet then lost the ball. Then you throw in Scarles who is really struggling right now. What the club needs to do is sign a couple of experienced CBs with a certain character - one that shouts, talks, is ruthless in all they do - or a younger player who is used to playing in the EFL.
I never thought I’d say this, but I’d be putting Areola in goal Tuesday &, if he does nothing wrong, leave him in for Watford. Mads just doesn’t make saves. His shots faced to save ratio must be incredibly low. Let’s get an extra body in midfield too - Engles, Orford, Kanté/Mukasa - & let’s get KWP at LB & Veltman at RB.
We then need to decide who plays up top - Taty or Piroe - & then we need to inject some directness into our game; ball wide, ball into box, bodies in box (all done as quickly as possible).
Talk of replacing Nuno now is nonsense. We had the chance in the summer after relegation, the club & Nuno decided to continue. There is no point entertaining talk of him going & replacements. It’s August.
The game yesterday summed up our frailties in certain areas, mainly CB. Both goals each CB was partly responsible for. All the club can do is sign another one. It’s not Nuno’s fault Mavropanos tripped over his own feet then lost the ball. Then you throw in Scarles who is really struggling right now. What the club needs to do is sign a couple of experienced CBs with a certain character - one that shouts, talks, is ruthless in all they do - or a younger player who is used to playing in the EFL.
I never thought I’d say this, but I’d be putting Areola in goal Tuesday &, if he does nothing wrong, leave him in for Watford. Mads just doesn’t make saves. His shots faced to save ratio must be incredibly low. Let’s get an extra body in midfield too - Engles, Orford, Kanté/Mukasa - & let’s get KWP at LB & Veltman at RB.
We then need to decide who plays up top - Taty or Piroe - & then we need to inject some directness into our game; ball wide, ball into box, bodies in box (all done as quickly as possible).
@Lukerz you are entitled to your own opinion, but to state it's nonsense IMO is quite patronising to others who. might feel it is worth looking at. We are ALL entitled to discuss and share our thoughts. While you may think it's nonsense, I actually don't....Like I already said, I wish we had parted ways before the season when we had the chance to get rid of him, after all, he failed to do what he was brought in to do, keep us up.....
I know he got Wolves up, but that was a while ago and with a different squad etc etc...
As for the rest of your comments, I do agree with Areola, Mads for me is so weak as a keeper as IMO it doesn't give the defence any confidence.
Kante & Scarles were rightly subbed of yesterday as IMO they were really poor. I just don't think Scarles is good enough, Kante, let's see...... It's a free hit for NES but an embarrassing scoreline won't help NES' cause.......
We were so poor today.Still a long way to go but it needs to change because we looked weak today.Every team that plays us ( particularly at the LS ) will believe it’s their cup final. We’ve got a target on our back.⚒️ But still madness to talk of sacking the manager after two league games.
If you are referring to me regarding sacking him for 2 EFL games, I also base it on his complete failure to achieve the goal of keeping us up. last season, he failed.... If I'm honest I was gutted he didn't go before the season started, so my basis is what he's done at our club since being here from last season as well, but I really hope to be proved wrong, and we're all entitled to our own opinions, so each to their own ....
Just out of interest, when you’ve binned Nuno who would you suggest as our manager ?Like immediately?
@Slacker it's not so easy, of course, like if Diouf is sold and we are left with Scarles, can you suggest who we sign to replace him ?..... As @Lukerz said, we had our chance and didn't do it in the summer, pity, IMO,if we had I'd have personally gone for either Gary O Neil or bring back Slav, but they are now both employed, so we missed our chance, they both have history with us, which IMO, while isn't vital, it does help.
But Jay, it’s nonsense because he isn’t going to be sacked on 23rd August - that’s not patronising, it’s just a fact
We can have that debate in 5 games, & they’ll be loads of time for it, but discussion from people now saying to change the manager, it is ridiculous, it makes no sense (given we are two games in & still assembling our squad) & won’t happen (now)
I know Luke, I fully agree it won't happen now, but for me it's gonna happen b4 Christmas......I hope I'm wrong, and he wins manager of the season etc etc..... The nonsense IMO is that we had our chance to get rid and we didn't.....That's nonsense.
Saying that Luke, other clubs I'm sure have made really snap/quick decisions in the past ( don't ask me to name them, but I'm sure it's happened, so why not........He had the best part of last season as well.....)
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Maybe it's just me, but if I had made a deal with DK then I would have stuck with it. When selling houses in the past I have ALWAYS stuck to my original deal even when better offers have came in. One exception was when the buyer suddenly wanted a discount and was not politely informed to go away.
I don't think Nuno is the man to sort out the problems that exist and I can't see him still here at the end of September unless results drastically improve.
But still madness to talk of sacking the manager after two league games.
It's their job to give information to the coach on these new opponents.
( Yes, I know mostly it's on the players, but still.... coach and players are going into the unknown.)
If I'm honest I was gutted he didn't go before the season started, so my basis is what he's done at our club since being here from last season as well, but I really hope to be proved wrong, and we're all entitled to our own opinions, so each to their own ....
Clearly its been said to play out the back
Dinos, Kilman, KWP and Scarles arent good enough to play out of defence, its not in their skillset
Hard that 3 players that many think are essential for our promotion push, Bowen, Taty and Dinos were all rubbish today
There must be a new centre back and centre forward arriving. Which means I am disappointed but not despondent just yet.
Think I covered my backside sufficiently there
In any event the stupid shuffle up to the ball should be stopped. If not by a rule change but by the manager.
https://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham-look-leaderless-as-charlton-expose-huge-problems/
Unfortunately, we currently look like a side that is unsure how to play. We’ve gone from being a ‘sit back & counter attack’ side, to a side that now has 80% possession. Add to this, we have a soft/frail mentality & a lack of leaders - as shown by the two goals we conceded & how we manage the game. Charlton knew they had a chance.
The 4-4-2 may look good on paper, but it isn’t balanced - there is no way of coordinating attack & defence so what we get is 1) CBs having most of the ball (plus Mads) 2) wide players having lots of the ball (which was wasted today by all four of them) & 3) CMs who then continue to go sideways & backwards. This makes our play slow & laboured, gets the crowd annoyed & gives the other side encouragement. One big takeaway, for me, is I think we need to quickly switch to a 4-3-3 in the short term.
When we lose the ball, we are open, & it was so easy for Charlton to get into our defensive third within 3 passes & 15 seconds. When we had the ball, we didn’t know how to attack. Solomon I actually thought was poor - he had so much of the ball, & was indecisive time & again. Scarles had an absolute mare of a game at LB, & we are going to need to sign a new one with Diouf on the way. Engels I felt a bit sorry for. He was clearly not having a great debut, but he never hid, was always showing for the ball, trying to get on the ball & trying to inject impetus into our game. Kanté also struggled, but was always being given the ball when he didn’t need it.
Second half we were improved on the first, mainly because Orford made a big difference & Musaka I thought was lively & knitted things together better, we got the ball to Bowen more (not enough, IMO) but we did not play like a side who will be dominating this league today, but I think this side is going to need 1) a few games & 2) the transfer window to shut, before we start to see things get better. It has certainly shown them this is going to be an incredibly challenging season.
Despite all that, we should have taken a point.
Potter
Lopetegui
Moyes
Pellegrini
Yes I know they were free but if those 5 are all experienced in one way or another, the problem is more how different they are in terms of who they were
The game yesterday summed up our frailties in certain areas, mainly CB. Both goals each CB was partly responsible for. All the club can do is sign another one. It’s not Nuno’s fault Mavropanos tripped over his own feet then lost the ball. Then you throw in Scarles who is really struggling right now. What the club needs to do is sign a couple of experienced CBs with a certain character - one that shouts, talks, is ruthless in all they do - or a younger player who is used to playing in the EFL.
I never thought I’d say this, but I’d be putting Areola in goal Tuesday &, if he does nothing wrong, leave him in for Watford. Mads just doesn’t make saves. His shots faced to save ratio must be incredibly low. Let’s get an extra body in midfield too - Engles, Orford, Kanté/Mukasa - & let’s get KWP at LB & Veltman at RB.
We then need to decide who plays up top - Taty or Piroe - & then we need to inject some directness into our game; ball wide, ball into box, bodies in box (all done as quickly as possible).
We are ALL entitled to discuss and share our thoughts.
While you may think it's nonsense, I actually don't....Like I already said, I wish we had parted ways before the season when we had the chance to get rid of him, after all, he failed to do what he was brought in to do, keep us up.....
I know he got Wolves up, but that was a while ago and with a different squad etc etc...
As for the rest of your comments, I do agree with Areola, Mads for me is so weak as a keeper as IMO it doesn't give the defence any confidence.
Kante & Scarles were rightly subbed of yesterday as IMO they were really poor.
I just don't think Scarles is good enough, Kante, let's see......
It's a free hit for NES but an embarrassing scoreline won't help NES' cause.......
As @Lukerz said, we had our chance and didn't do it in the summer, pity, IMO,if we had I'd have personally gone for either Gary O Neil or bring back Slav, but they are now both employed, so we missed our chance, they both have history with us, which IMO, while isn't vital, it does help.
We can have that debate in 5 games, & they’ll be loads of time for it, but discussion from people now saying to change the manager, it is ridiculous, it makes no sense (given we are two games in & still assembling our squad) & won’t happen (now)
The nonsense IMO is that we had our chance to get rid and we didn't.....That's nonsense.
Saying that Luke, other clubs I'm sure have made really snap/quick decisions in the past ( don't ask me to name them, but I'm sure it's happened, so why not........He had the best part of last season as well.....)