Latest Injury (and Recovery!) Mews

MrsGrey

MrsGrey said:

Daily Heil reporting it as 'a knock' that caused him to 'skip training' yesterday. He 'might not' play on Tuesday.

;pray

Not in the starting line-up.

thornburyiron

Nor on the bench

IronHerb

SSN reporting Antonio may miss the rest of the season with a hamstring injury.

MrsGrey

;lol What would we do without them?

baracks_a_hammer

So we have AC, Reid, Obiang, Lanzini and Antonio. All arguably first teamers. None of them have managed more that 21 league appearances this season. Very difficult to build up any sort of momentum as a team in those circumstances.

Yeoldhammer

So what is our injury list looking like ?


- AC (probably out for rest of the season)
- Reid (out for rest of the season)
- Obiang (out for rest of the season)
- Byram (out for rest of the season)
- Collins (?)
- Lanzini (?)
- Chicarito (?)
- Antonio (?)

IronHerb

AC - possibly available for the last 4 or 5 games.
Lanzini - probably available next week
Chicarito - probably available next week

Lukerz

Reid and Antonio are almost entering the Andy Carroll school of reliability. Have to be fair. If we lose patience with AC not being able to stay fit, those two need to get the same treatment. Antonio has rarely played since signing his new contract. Reid also got a new deal before picking up two significant injuries.

Might need to consider their futures the way it is going. They will all be on big wages because of the new deals and all are late 20s now. Can’t keep having them on the treatment table.

Byram is also going the same way.

OutcastLondoner

Bryam started off that way. Has he ever played more than a few games? His injury record is probably worse than AC’s.

welovethehammers

I feel we need Antonio's to see a specialist regarding his hamstring issue. Our own medical team haven't been able to sort it out as it's a recurring issue. Each time he comes back it's the same issue so maybe they simply do not know what the problem is or how to treat it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Antonio picks up many injuries due to his physique and style of play. Your typical footballers are built more like Mark Noble - not the size of Antonio. He's built more like Anthony Joshu or a 100m sprinter.

I know a 100 metre sprinter who tried to get into rugby as a winger but kept on sustaining muscular injuries due to his body naturally wanting to sprint in a straight line. As soon as he tried to drop a shoulder in rugby or change direction quickly he'd sustain injuries. His body's movement patterns were so used to moving in a linear fashion that he couldn't shift laterally at speed without picking up a muscular injury. I'm waffling a bit but perhaps there's some sort of similar issue with Antonio. I realise he hasn't been training to do 100 metre sprints (as far as I'm aware!!!)

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Have to agree Luke

For me, it's not the long ACLs or brokens bones etc that worry me, as they can happen to just about anyone....I get more worried by the guys who continuously get non contact injuries like muscle tears when sprinting, especially the hamstrings

I like all of Reid, Antonio and Carroll, but they can't keep themselves fit for any long period of time and it's often through non contact injuries

Add to the fact they are all probably among the top earners or at least earn £50k

I think all 3 need replacing as they just cannot be relied upon, and for me Byram isn't good enough anyway even when he is fit

alderz

Byram is worse than Reid and Antonio.

Reid is still our best defender when fit (imo), but hopefully will not need to be rushed back in future with the emergence of Rice. Up to now, whenever he's had half a leg to stand on he's been back in the lineup. I think he's given a lot to the club and we need to give him next season at the very, very least to get back.

Antonio is a tough one. Repeated muscular injuries for someone of his physique and style of play are really damaging in the long term. Hopefully he won't need to rush back before the end of the season, and will come back next year recuperated and ready to fire on all cylinders.

If anyone out there wanted to take Carroll or Byram off our hands I would be delighted to let them do so, but nobody will, for the exact reasons I want rid.

MrsGrey

alderz said:

Reid ... hopefully will not need to be rushed back in future with the emergence of Rice. Up to now, whenever he's had half a leg to stand on he's been back in the lineup. I think he's given a lot to the club and we need to give him next season at the very, very least to get back.

Well said ;ok

Lukerz

MrsGrey said:

alderz said:

Reid ... hopefully will not need to be rushed back in future with the emergence of Rice. Up to now, whenever he's had half a leg to stand on he's been back in the lineup. I think he's given a lot to the club and we need to give him next season at the very, very least to get back.

Well said ;ok

I do completely agree with that regarding Reid, despite my overal point ;ok

IronHerb

MrsGrey said:

;lol What would we do without them?

Confirmed on BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43616617

MrsGrey

Maybe SSN should have waited until it was confirmed, then they wouldn't have had to put out a meaningless news item saying 'could be'. Since anyone can read up the timescales for a hamstring and arrive at the same conclusion. It's hardly news.

BubblesNeverDies

It's a bit like deja vu all over again. If it happens next year, I'd say there's a pattern developing. ;hmm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39586811

imagelost

Could worse
We could have jack wilt
I thought he was doing so well too

ASLEFshrugged

OutcastLondoner said:

Bryam started off that way. Has he ever played more than a few games? His injury record is probably worse than AC’s.

He made 39 appearances with 36 starts out of a total of 49 games, missed three for a red card and three as an unused substitute, missing four due to injury/other

That was 2014/15, when he played for Leeds

The season we bought him he'd played 24 out of 29, started 17, been unused 3 and unavailable 2

alderz

So it's us that broke him!

OutcastLondoner

ASLEFshrugged said:

OutcastLondoner said:

Bryam started off that way. Has he ever played more than a few games? His injury record is probably worse than AC’s.

He made 39 appearances with 36 starts out of a total of 49 games, missed three for a red card and three as an unused substitute, missing four due to injury/other

That was 2014/15, when he played for Leeds

The season we bought him he'd played 24 out of 29, started 17, been unused 3 and unavailable 2

I wasn't talking about Leeds. He got 4 games for us that season and has not added too many since then.

ASLEFshrugged

My point was that like AC he didn't have any major injury problems until be joined us

Byram was available from the start of the season until he got injured at the end of October but he was benched for Zab, he even turned out for the U23s a few times just to keep his fitness up.

Last season after the FA Cup 3rd round Byram wasn't available twice, once with a minor hamstring, the other he was suspended.

He's spent a lot of time on the bench but still managed 36 appearances with 22 starts

MrsGrey

Antonio having an operation next week on his hamstring.

Lanzini probably not OK for the Chelsea game.

Chicharito is over the illness he had last week.

Collins will be back in full training next week.

Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2018/april/06-april/team-news-surgery-antonio-lanzini-doubt-and-chicharito-returns-0#WRldpReeIV3OTFZK.99

PrestonHammer

I'm not sure Chelsea is ready for AC.

steve

what happens when carroll is fit enough to be on the bench .that might give us Hugill,chicharito plus carroll there ,no way will we have all 3 on the bench so will that mean whoever is left out is gone at seasons end

Adam

steve said:

no way will we have all 3 on the bench

Correct. We won’t have all 3 on the bench, because I’m sure at least 1 will get injured, so we don’t get the choice of putting all 3 on the bench.

PrestonHammer

Carroll won't be back at all this season imo. If in the unlikely event he does, he will get injured in his first match back and will be out until the middle of next season.

Fortuneseeker

steve said:

what happens when carroll is fit enough to be on the bench .that might give us Hugill,chicharito plus carroll there ,no way will we have all 3 on the bench so will that mean whoever is left out is gone at seasons end

Which TWO strikers are we going to play if all three of those are on the bench?

imagelost

Any news on cress?

Bazshuayi

He's really grown since being moved to central defence ;run