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  • Cuz1Cuz1
    OldCastleSwift said:

    One memorable performance this season. Speaks volumes, as far as I'm concerned.

    It's all such a shame because he would be such an asset if his fitness and dedication matched his ability, for both West Ham and England.

    I can agree with his fitness, but dedication imo isn’t right, can’t believe people are blaming him for his fitness issues, when he does manage to play for us at least you get maximum effort and commitment
  • epsom_bubblesepsom_bubbles
    I reckon he told his wife they were going to Chelsea, and she said no way am I moving. But I’ve told everybody now. “i don’t care, make up some excuse, and make it believable......”
  • LukerzLukerz
    Cuz - no doubting his effort on the pitch at times. Pretty easy to give your all for an hour on a Saturday.

    I’m talking about the off the pitch, day to day professionalism which past managers have alluded to. Two different things IMO.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Yes they are lukerz spot on but we moan about lazy journalism and you have nothing to substantiate that these two are linked as I’ve said probably because he’s more dedicated and committed to get on the pitch only imo
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    edited January 2018
    chicagohammer said:

    I must say that I am soooo done with AC - thanks for the occasions when you were simply unplayable, and thank you so much for THAT goal, however I am over you now.

    All the best.

    And yes, I do mean business, I am transferring you out of my FF team.......

    mmmm..... Transfers ;biggrin
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Andy Carroll is a great player, I love watching him play, I think he is exciting to watch and has an excellent attitude and approach to the game when he is on the pitch. From what I`ve heard he also trains well and works bloomping hard to get himself back in shape and fit after each lay off. He`s no angel, I`m sure he likes to party and have the odd drink or two, but anything above and beyond this is pure speculation, tittle tattle and smear. Fake news. I honestly don`t think his lifestyle impacts his performance or inhibits the way he plays. Bottom line is I don`t think his body, his physicality, is suited to football. The man is fragile and I feel for him, he wants to play, he has bucket loads of ability, he has a good footballing brain, his body just doesn`t co-operate. And not in the slightly amusing Carlton Cole way. Whatever he chooses to do I wish him luck, he seems a decent bloke, and if he is ever out Suffolk way I`d buy him a pint.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited January 2018
    Have plenty of sympathy for him and do think he does his utmost to get himself fit and then give his all on the pitch

    BUT

    His presence at our club is a big chunk of the payroll. So playing every now and then doesn’t really work for a club like ours. He is preventing us having someone else who can make a more consistent contribution to our cause.

    We are not Man Utd where we can afford to have an Ibra on a huge wage sidelined for lengthy periods and not playing
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    Have plenty of sympathy for him and do think he does his utmost to get himself fit and then give his all on the pitch

    BUT

    His presence at our club is a big chunk of the payroll. So playing every now and then doesn’t really work for a club like ours. He is preventing us having someone else who can make a more consistent contribution to our cause.

    We are not Man Utd where we can afford to have an Ibra on a huge wage sidelined for lengthy periods and not playing

    I actually agree and personally even though I like him I’d sell him but it gets my goat when his commitment and dedication comes into question because of his poor fitness record, I believe if that was the case he wouldn’t come back after injury and still give 100% to the cause and not just for an hour on a Saturday again imo it’s a cheap shot
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I think the fact Slav publicly questioned his off field behaviour and said from memory there were things he could do to better look after himself might be where people get idea from .
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    I think the fact Slav publicly questioned his off field behaviour and said from memory there were things he could do to better look after himself might be where people get idea from .

    Probably didn’t have to train under Slav if we believe what the players and Moyes said when he’d left
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    I think the fact Slav publicly questioned his off field behaviour and said from memory there were things he could do to better look after himself might be where people get idea from .

    Thing is, Slav was (a) never specific about what that 'off field behaviour' was. It could have been resting more at home (the club monitors stuff like that) or going to bed earlier, or eating more kale... But assumptions were made amongst sections of the fans. We all know what those were.

    Also, Slav never subsequently said (b) we've told him what to do/not do and he's ignoring us. Again, assumptions were made by some fans.

    It is entirely possible that the 'things he could do' were based on the latest developments in sports science, or research into diet, and that he took them all on board and adjusted his lifestyle accordingly.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    deehammer said:

    Andy has become a family man, he has his son Arlo and there was another child expected, but I don't when or if, it has happened yet.

    They named him wolf nine if I remember correctly
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    So the stuff about drugs was true, after all.



    ;wink
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    See Bellamy has stuck the knife in the back, lovely, considering some of the things he’s got up to, loved his book but he needs to shut it
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    One of the giants of the game.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Small Man Syndrome. Classic case.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited January 2018
    Bellamy and Wise on Sky The Debate for those what was wondering.

  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    David Moyes on Manuel Lanzini’s injury: “It’s a worry, it looks like a hamstring. We will get it scanned, that’s come from more general fatigue I think.”
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Lets hope it’s only two weeks and just misses the cup game if not it’s a worry hopefully Antonio be back as well
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2018
    From Physioroom - the range of injuries and average recovery times for hamstring strains:
    As a general rule, grade one Hamstring strains should be rested from sporting activity for about 3 weeks and grade two injuries for about 4 to 6 weeks. In the case of a complete rupture, the Hamstring muscle will have to be repaired surgically and the rehabilitation afterwards will take about 3 months.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Fatigue injures are kicking in (Reid, Lanzini, for example). I notice that we don't seem to be having a warm weather break this year? Several other clubs have had them.
  • ValiantIronValiantIron
    Interesting factoid from James Anderson when I was listening to the cricket this morning, which is unfortunately relevant to our current situation: apparently there's no point in scanning a strain immediately as you can't see anything useful. You have to let it 'develop' and by the next day a scan can give you the information you need.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Lanzini out for a month, Carroll for three months.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2018
    Official?

    Rumour?

    Prediction?

    Bet?
  • LukerzLukerz
    In the Mirror in the last hour ;ok
  • PengemanPengeman
    Lanzini layoff - nothing on the WHU website yet but the bad news is reported in the Mirror https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-ham-suffer-double-hammer-11892827

    The good news, according to Ex Employee, is that Antonio is due to start training this week. May be will have a cameo against Palace.

    I would have thought Samuelson could step up to fill the Lanzini role but obviously Moyes did not think so and Samuelson is now on loan at Burton. Snodgrass is playing will but cna't be recalled from Aston Villa. I wonder if Moyes will give Haksabanovic or Quina a try. If no, may be will rethink the team formation.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Luke/Penge ;ok
    Carroll will miss up to three months worth of action, after a scan revealed that he has suffered a hairline fracture of his foot
    Which we knew already, and is only stating a maximum period, so nothing new and nothing definitive there.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    We really don't have anyone who can replace Lanzini though

    Ayew isn't good enough, Noble/Cullen aren't quick/nimble enough, Hernandez is best in the box not deep and Quina/Sead are kids

    Such a huge blow it really is, some of the football between Lanzini and Arnie the last few weeks has been breathtaking

    Hernandes will likely be the body thats brought in but can't imagine a midfield of Noble, Obiang and Kouyate giving him enough supply
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    If we get Antonio back, then I think a top 3 of Arnie/Antonio/Chico could prove a handful.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Grey I really hope so

    One thing we need to do with Antonio is not rush him back, he hasn't looked fit in a long time and every time he comes back it's too soon and he aggravates the injury

    He needs to gradually build up his fitness

    But I agree that front 3 looks very good
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