Official - some people can't let Sam Allardyce go (counselling available, reasonable fees.)

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  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    "We have had a point taken away from us today which wasn't our fault. In our position that's a hugely precious point, even at this stage of the season... We know we have to build from a solid base. What looked like a 0-0 would have been a good basis for us because the goals will come."

    How many times did we see this? Respect the point then ultimately lose it.

    What we saw from our current manager yesterday was respect the three points.

    Which I prefer.
  • LukerzLukerz
    W - L - L
    D - D - D

    Ultimately both = 3 points.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Mrs G, working for me now ;ok

    OCS, thought I was banned for a minute... #mrsallardyce #database ;whistle
  • LukerzLukerz
    Interesting why Zarate is now seen as a valuable squad player yet last season the manager couldn't get anything out of him? ;hmm
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Interesting why Zarate is now seen as a valuable squad player yet last season the manager couldn't get anything out of him? ;hmm
    In all fairness nor could the QPR manager, but he seems up for it this season

    ;ok
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Interesting why Zarate is now seen as a valuable squad player yet last season the manager the managers couldn't get anything out of him? ;hmm
    Fixed it for ya! ;ok
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited October 2015
    Maybe, but then Ramsey is a two-Bob manager who is struggling at QPR and vastly inexperienced. ;wink

    Not saying Sam was wrong to leave him out the XI, but as a sub, making him feel wanted and keeping him involved. Instead of just giving up and losing all patience.

    Bilic obviously knows how to handle people.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Latest rumour is that Sam wants Sandro, Carlton, Collins and JO'B by January.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Lukerz

    And 'Arry, who was manager when he joined on loan? ;whistle
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited October 2015
    Maybe, but then Ramsey is a two-Bob manager who is struggling at QPR and vastly inexperienced. ;wink

    Not saying Sam was wrong to leave him out the XI, but as a sub, making him feel wanted and keeping him involved. Instead of just giving up and losing all patience.

    Bilic obviously knows how to handle people.
    As he proved with Amalfitano.


    Oh, hang on....
  • simoncsimonc
    Slaven - I think they all know what they can and can't get away with now, Amalf was a very clear example.
    As for Big Sam - Simply Sour Grapes, I feel sorry for him really, he seems to have forgotten that football is a spectator sport.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I feel sorry for Sam too.

    Imagine playing terrific football for half the season, and then having people completely blank it out of their memories, so they can give him pelters...
  • simoncsimonc
    Memories are short but even in that spell I seem to remember defensive substitutions trying to protect one goal leads.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Can't have been many, given that out of our first 10 wins, all bar 2 were by more than 1 goal...

    People 'remember' what they want to, to support a preconceived view.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Grey, I haven't forgotten that early season form. And I remember Allardyce getting the plaudits for it.

    However, I also remember the prevailing attitude post-Christmas which made me almost fall out of love with football.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    OCS

    That's fair comment.

    I don't share your view, but I can see how disappointing the 2nd half was, and we played some poor football in that period (along with some good stuff that gets forgotten, as well.)

    What I don't get is why people insist on ignoring the first half of the season, and banging on about how boring Sam's style was.

    Last year, at game 9, we had scored 17 goals, got 16 points and were 4th.
  • simoncsimonc
    Preconceived? Only one with a preconceived view is Sam himself
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Yeah, right.
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    I feel sorry for Sam too.

    Imagine playing terrific football for half the season, and then having people completely blank it out of their memories, so they can give him pelters...
    I guess people also remember the other 3 and a half years of dross that was served up ;ok
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    T&S

    So, all of it was dross, yeah?

    All of it.

    No good games.

    No good performances.

    No good memories.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Not even a great day out at Wembley ;hmm
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    They were some, Grey. But IMO (which I'm sure you know by now, and are bored from it...) the dross heavily outweighs the good.
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    What happened in the first half of last season had very little to do with Sam's genius. He was forced to play without Nolan. As soon as Nolan became available again.... well, the rest is history.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I'm with Twist on this.

    Obviously some good games, performances and memories culminating in a good half season last year. But over all maybe not dross but dull and uninspiring.

    Still, that's all in the past.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    We can argue over the factors, but .... the reasons don't take away the fact that there was some good football and exciting games for us to enjoy.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Regardless of how you factor the reasons, the fact is that last season we played a lot of entertaining, attacking, inventive football.

    This season has seen that continue, rather than be a total revelation, imo.
  • simoncsimonc
    Better thank the board for demanding better football and installing Teddy
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    And in the 2nd half of the season ... did the board sack Teddy?
  • simoncsimonc
    For what its worth i think Sam was expecting a contract extension at x-mas when it wasn't forthcoming he reverted to type & we got what we got.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    So you are saying the 1st half WAS down to Sam, but then he decided to change things for the 2nd half?
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