Other Games 29th April through to 4th May

chicagohammer

Expat_Hammer said:

Old Westhamians ................ Wasn't that made up from mainly ex pupils of Stratford Grammar, or am I thinking of something else

Originally, I believe that yes that is correct, but that was not the case when I was playing for them, I for one, was not an ex pupil

Slacker

I turned out a few times for Old Esthamians ( East Ham Grammar) but it was around the time I discovered women and beer so it was a bit short lived.

chicagohammer

My time was roughly between 1983 - 89, we could have played against each other

OldCastleSwift

Just seen the 'foul' for Liverpool’s penalty.

Completely vindicates Moyes’s comment about penalties being given at Anfield. If you thought Palace's was soft at the weekend, this is probably even worse.

buffybegood

OldCastleSwift said:

Just seen the 'foul' for Liverpool’s penalty.

Completely vindicates Moyes’s comment about penalties being given at Anfield. If you thought Palace's was soft at the weekend, this is probably even worse.

I've not seen it yet, but obviously it's no surprise.

Edit: seen it, there's contact but it's a complete dive, not sure it's worse than Palace's though.

OldCastleSwift

https://twitter.com/Fulham_japan/status/1653847046951145472

Giant_Hammer

Sorry but imo that’s a disgusting decision.

Slacker

chicagohammer said:

My time was roughly between 1983 - 89, we could have played against each other

Probably not, I’d discovered drugs by then.😉

IronHerb

I played against Old Easthamians at cricket, probably late 70's and through the 80's.

Slacker

IronHerb said:

I played against Old Easthamians at cricket, probably late 70's and through the 80's.

Do you ever get bamboozled by a dashing young(ish) right arm spin bowler?

Figures: One match, eight overs,68 runs, 0 wickets.

IronHerb

Slacker said:

IronHerb said:

I played against Old Easthamians at cricket, probably late 70's and through the 80's.

Do you ever get bamboozled by a dashing young(ish) right arm spin bowler?

Figures: One match, eight overs,68 runs, 0 wickets.

I did then and still do now, even in retirement. 😬

Giant_Hammer

I used to bowl spin and occasionally the ball would slip out of the top of my hand and come down with ice on it. I remember this happening and it came smack down on top of the stumps with the batsman staring into the sky looking for it. The umpire didn’t signal a wide but gave the bloke out. From that day on my team-mates would shout “bowl the ghost ball”.

IronHerb

I think they now describe that as 'bowling above the batters eyeline.' 😂

Giant_Hammer

Mate I’ve seen NASA rockets not get as high as that.

buffybegood

Antony shouda seen red for that "challenge", he basically just kicked the guy.

Fortuneseeker

buffy, True but he has a Manchester United shirt on!

buffybegood

Yeah, the only thing VAR checked was the badge on the shirt.

buffybegood

Drama, VAR has called the ref to check for a Brighton penalty in the last seconds of added time.

Pen given.

buffybegood

Scored, 1-0 Brighton.

Brighton just poked the bear, wouldn't want to be playing Man Utd next.

steve

Lets hope in some way I can't think off that helps us

MIAHammer

This is one of the problems with VAR. It is so obvious. Why ask the ref to go to the monitor? Just give the penalty and let them get on with it.

alderz

MIAHammer said:

This is one of the problems with VAR. It is so obvious. Why ask the ref to go to the monitor? Just give the penalty and let them get on with it.

It should either be this, or the ref just goes to the monitor every time he makes a penalty or red card decision. Might as well let the one guy have a look at it from a couple of angles, why does it need to be sorted by someone in Stockley Park? If the ref just takes a second look, he can decide for himself. IMO, if the ref saw the Eze-Aguerd incident again from any other angle he wouldn't have given it.

buffybegood

alderz said:

IMO, if the ref saw the Eze-Aguerd incident again from any other angle he wouldn't have given it.

I said a couple of days that reviews of penalties by the ref should be much more commonplace, akin to how things are done in rugby union. Even if the ref sticks with his original decision, at least we'd get more correct decisions. The issue with VAR being afraid to call out the onfield ref still hasn't been addressed; the "clear and obvious" mistake approach basically means the VAR often won't intervene even when everyone knows the ref has got it wrong.

Fortuneseeker

@alderz, Stuart Attwell should have been asked to look at the penalty at Liverpool last night but he wasn't that doesn't say much for the person on VAR.

PrestonHammer

If they used clear and obvious in cricket, most batters would never be given out. The difference between using var in cricket and rugby vs football is, they look to make the correct decision in the first 2, whilst in football they seem scared to make the correct decision in case the ref has made a mistake.

ASLEFshrugged

Klopp is a deeply unpleasent

buffybegood said:

Antony shouda seen red for that "challenge", he basically just kicked the guy.

buffybegood said:

Yeah, the only thing VAR checked was the badge on the shirt.

VAR is only used if the the ref gives a straight red card, they don't check if yellow cards should be red

MIAHammer said:

This is one of the problems with VAR. It is so obvious. Why ask the ref to go to the monitor? Just give the penalty and let them get on with it.

Only the ref can award a penalty, VAR can only offer the ref their opinion

alderz

ASLEFshrugged said:

buffybegood said:

Yeah, the only thing VAR checked was the badge on the shirt.

VAR is only used if the the ref gives a straight red card, they don't check if yellow cards should be red

This isn’t right. VAR can check if a ref gives a yellow that should be a red. According to the Premier League, anyway.

IronHerb

Was Anthony booked for the foul or the confrontation with Dunk? Dunk was booked for the confrontation so, presumably, was Anthony which means the foul went uncarded.

ASLEFshrugged

alderz said:

This isn’t right. VAR can check if a ref gives a yellow that should be a red. According to the Premier League, anyway.

I stand corrected (well, sit)

IronHerb said:

Was Anthony booked for the foul or the confrontation with Dunk? Dunk was booked for the confrontation so, presumably, was Anthony which means the foul went uncarded.

Everything I've read suggests he was booked for the tackle.

IronHerb

So he gets away with the confrontation with Dunk and giving the lino a mouthful.