Board/Fan Relationship

PrestonHammer

Everything was going great until the very end. I understand the two Daves doing the crossed arms thing, when did the fans start doing that?

ASLEFshrugged

That would have been pre-2007 when the East London line was run by London Underground and you could switch from the District via St Mary's curve at Whitechapel but that was decommissioned when London Overground took over.

Honestly we hardly have enough drivers to run a full timetable as it is without adding in football specials

imagelost

Some business plan, no room to pay drivers overtime.

Moojor

ASLEFshrugged said:

That would have been pre-2007 when the East London line was run by London Underground and you could switch from the District via St Mary's curve at Whitechapel but that was decommissioned when London Overground took over.

Honestly we hardly have enough drivers to run a full timetable as it is without adding in football specials

They should perhaps advertise externally for drivers, I very much doubt there would be a shortage of applications.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

So it would appear the board reduced the interest rate on the shareholder loans April 2017. It's now around 4% instead of the previous 6/7% ;thumbsup

We owe them 45m as it stands, they've taken a bit more back as they did the year before.

And we've got a new facility to replace the Payday loans, with Tabor's company Media Rights (?) and that was why the training grounds were mortgaged. 50m facility and we've used 25m already and another 15m in Jan, all to be paid back when the TV money comes in from this season.

180m revenue and wages at around 95m now.

;ok

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

looks like the Real West Ham Fans Action Group is over 10,000 members on FB now after only a few weeks. Some of their requests have already started to be actioned, they are looking to give out flyers at the CFC or AFC game and any protest will be the NUFC home game.

MrsGrey

Dunno what FB you are looking at. 9,300 is showing as their members.

MrsGrey

Any idea what we should be called if we aren't members of the group? ;hmm

Not real West Ham Fans?

Imaginary West Ham Fans?

Unreal West Ham Fans?

Surreal West Ham Fans?

Possibly

Real West Ham Fans Inaction Group ;hmm

Might start my own group.....

secrethammersfan

MrsGrey said:

Any idea what we should be called if we aren't members of the group? ;hmm

SECRET HAMMERS FANS! ;whistle

MrsGrey

;lol ;bowdown

grey_til_I_dye

secrethammersfan said:

MrsGrey said:

Any idea what we should be called if we aren't members of the group? ;hmm

SECRET HAMMERS FANS! ;whistle

Excellent idea!

Don't tell anyone about it, though.

SuzanneClaret

Any group claiming to represent the 'real fan' base is not. It's an impossible task (I know, I tried).

grey_til_I_dye

Think they should be forced to change their name to:

Those people who signed up to our Facebook page group

MrsGrey

SuzanneClaret said:

Any group claiming to represent the 'real fan' base is not. It's an impossible task (I know, I tried).

Yes, but the advantage of it is enables them to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as 'not real fans'.

It saves so much time.

Edit: the other response to anyone who disagrees with them is to characterise it as 'turning on your own'.. ie, disloyalty. lol

TwistandShout

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

looks like the Real West Ham Fans Action Group is over 10,000 members on FB now after only a few weeks. Some of their requests have already started to be actioned, they are looking to give out flyers at the CFC or AFC game and any protest will be the NUFC home game.

And growing...

I see young Dave Sullivan was watching on Facebook live. Not going to like what he heard ;lol

SuzanneClaret

What does this pressure group want the Board to do exactly?

MrsGrey

I'll report back, suz. I'm going undercover ;diop

SuzanneClaret

;thumbsup ;sofa

ASLEFshrugged

imagelost said:

Some business plan, no room to pay drivers overtime.

All safety critical workers on the railways have legal restrictions as to how many hours they can work in a week, how many days they can work without a rest day and a minimum rest period between shifts

If there's work that needs doing why not employ enough people rather than relying on overtime.

Moojor said:

They should perhaps advertise externally for drivers, I very much doubt there would be a shortage of applications.

They did that back in the early 2000s, out of the thousands of applicants they got about 300 that passed the initial assessment but only about 30 eventually qualified as drivers, the rest ended up working on stations and were allowed to reapply for driver after 6 months.

They advertise externally for the part time Night Tube drivers, out of the 190 or so who started last year about 140 were external candidates, I think they're allowed to apply for full time driver position after 18 months.

MrsGrey

ASLEFshrugged said:

If there's work that needs doing why not employ enough people rather than relying on overtime.

It's the cheaper option.






Is that the right answer?

MrsGrey

Adam said:

MrsGrey said:

I'll report back, suz. I'm going undercover ;diop

You’re going to hide in their wardrobe in their bedrooms? Wow, that is creepy.

Real fans stop at nothing.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

MrsGrey said:

Dunno what FB you are looking at. 9,300 is showing as their members.

This one, why what FB are you looking at?

MrsGrey

This one

Yeoldhammer

half the members are Bots I reckon

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Really? How’s that then?

Mrs G not sure what view you’re looking at within FB but believe me it’s over 10k members as the number when in the group is the real one I believe.

If I’d only said “around 10k” then it would of saved all this eh? ;wink

MrsGrey

yeold, I don't think members can be bots because there's a 'bot spot' question you have to answer before you can join. They might not all be real west ham fans though ;wink

Izzy ;ok It's definitely the same group ... maybe the way they appear in the list of groups (that I searched for) has a number that is the official FB count (done automatically) and maybe the number on the image is put there by the group administrator and includes other, non-FB members like through a blog page or twitter followers or something. Or maybe the FB official count is only updated every so often...

OutcastLondoner

Adam said:

MrsGrey said:

I'll report back, suz. I'm going undercover ;diop

You’re going to hide in their wardrobe in their bedrooms? Wow, that is creepy.

Then jump out like this

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

So we’re agreed it’s over 10k

I’m sure that the vast majority if not all are West Ham fans, not sure why they chose “real” would have to read back through the group, I’m guessing it was aimed at the fact they don’t believe all fans that attend the LS are actually west ham fans (??)

They’ve posted a very general initial five point plan and some of those items have already started to be looked at by the club, I don’t think this group is going away anytime soon and we will see activity of some sort. How successful they are in their aims remains to be seen

All just my opinion mind

MrsGrey

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

So we’re agreed it’s over 10k

No, we really aren't. ;lol

MrsGrey

OutcastLondoner said:

Then jump out like this

And they be like