West Brom (H) 11/02 - 15.00 k/o

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  • HammerexHammerex
    I dare say that every supporter in the country thinks that there team have been
    robbed and the Ref needs glasses as their team never foul the opposition.
    However I do think that the " Big Teams " Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd & City Etc
    generally always seem to get the decision going there way against lower opposition.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Vorse, the goal would have stood had Antonio, who was in an offside position but
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited February 2017
    Vorse, the goal would have stood had Antonio, who was in an offside position but not interfering, not interfered with Foster.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2017
    Vorselaarhammer said:



    As the WBA guy was down "injured" is he not considered in the offside rule?

    No, he was 'playing' people onside ;ok
    That was part of the confusion - was the goal disallowed because the ref/lino hadn't noticed the WBA player lying on the ground playing everybody on, or was it disallowed because Antonio fouled the GK in the run up? Or for some other reason.

    I don't think the officials actually knew what was going on. There was a lot of 'chat' before the ref signalled for no goal.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited February 2017
    I don't think the injured player had relevance because he was further back than the goalie when the ball was kicked. Foster was ahead of him. Is that not right? So he wasn't playing Antonio onside because he was not officially part of play. Antonio was fherefore offside. And anyway he went and shoved Foster. So no real controversy there.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;puzzled
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    'The Boy Ref' ;lol

    He had a word with Foster after about 5 minutes for taking too much time. He had another chat with him in the second half, probably to discuss the price of fish, but still Foster wasted time. Foster is so good at time wasting because he is allowed to get away with it. ;angry
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited February 2017
    No Lukerz thats wrong. Two players between the last attacker and the goal line, whether lying face down or not. The keeper need not be one of the two.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited February 2017
    The throw in was probably WBA's. Antonio, when he goes to intercept, looks to the heavens and then jogs back without appealing, suggesting that he knows he got a touch on it.

    The biggest scandal was how far the throw in was taken away from where the ball actually went out! They'd never have won the corner had it been thrown from where it should have been.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited February 2017
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    The biggest scandal was how far the throw in was taken away from where the ball actually went out! They'd never have won the corner had it been thrown from where it should have been.

    I'm not disagreeing, but this is something that is never properly policed. Even on the very rare occasions a player is sent back along the line (when they're really taking the Michael), the actual throw-in is still taken much further forward than where the ball went out. Only way to prevent it is to have a lino run the line the full length of the pitch and spray where the ball goes out, and the thrown in has to be behind that line; will never happen.
  • secrethammersfansecrethammersfan
    I mentioned this before, but since he's known that the opportunity is there, and that the responsibility to contribute too, will more likely fall on him, Feghouli's curve has been trending upwards. It seems -27 is a positive number :-)
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Just referring back to an earlier post which ended "support the team"

    I am puzzled by a comment like this. As far as I can see each and every person who posts on this site does exactly that.

    Furthermore as far as I know, this is a forum which by its nature provides a platform for users to give their views and opinions, provided they stay within site regulations.

    A person's view should not be chastised or considered inferior just because it may be more critical than what another person may think.

    Suggesting or insinuating that a negative view on the Board, manager, players, tactics or any other aspect of the club means a person is not "supporting the team" comes across as disrespectful IMO.

  • alderzalderz
    edited February 2017
    Apologies if this has already been said, but on the disallowed goal, I think it was offside because Antonio was interfering with play by touching the keeper. It wasn't a foul by him, but you can't say he wasn't interfering with play if he's got his hands on the keeper.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I don't think it was disallowed for offside. Look at the linesman, he keeps his flag raised indicating a foul. For offside the flag is held straight out.
  • LukerzLukerz
    I saw it mentioned earlier that Foster had Antonio round the head in a headlock. That was the worst decision of the lot. Blatant penalty and red card.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    just watched it again and most of the decisions were correct and yes they did take the throw in too far up but even then our defending for the corner was dreadful. We had about 8 players in there and nobody really got off the ground. Randolph was too busy watching and pushing his own man. There was no way he could have got to the ball anyway and had he stayed on his line he would have saved the header.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard


    Take a look at the above, this was the worst decision of the lot. Antonio got pelters at the time on social media for an air shot, now we can see why.

    While watching the game it appears we're on the end of a lot of bad decisions when you break them all down then Oliver hasn't got that much wrong.

    The Antonio offside/foul was probably right but he should've given a foul on Fegs in the build up to their goal, it was their throw as well that led to the corner.

    That non penalty decision was clearly the worst for me.

    Decent enough performance pullis brings on a defender in the 52nd minute and hold out, tells you all you need to know about their mentality, overall play they didn't deserve a thing, we bring on Ginge to shore it up at the end and we don't do it.

    Decent enough point and plenty of positives

    ;ok
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Thorn

    When I watching the game in real time, my first reaction on their second goal was simply, what on earth was Randy doing, he totally misjudged the flight of the ball and committed himself when there was no chance to get anywhere near it.

    It was unfortunate as we had dominated the second half and looked really solid, but I think that Randy has to hold his hand up for that one.

    COYI
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I'm more than happy with my indignation and will continue to chunter about the game for the rest of the season and beyond.

  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    In spite of any minor grievances, in general we played superbly yesterday. Hopefully the boys get some good warm weather training, some good rest, and push on for the rest of the season: things look positive. COYI
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I just can't for the life of me see why that first goal was disallowed.

    The lino flagged for offside.

    It wasn't offside.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Antionio did put hands on Foster but had it been the other way around would we have got a penalty.

    No.

  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited February 2017
    At the end of the day a point and a good second half performance is still good overall imo. We could have got 3 but at least for 45 minutes we had a performance where we were totally on top. That hasn't happened in a while.
  • LukerzLukerz
    The Antonio goal is offside and a foul. So no injustice there.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    No, but so much confusion about why the officials disallowed it doesn't inspire much confidence.

    Did they think Feghouli was offside?

    Dd they think Antonio was offside and interfering with play?

    Was it a foul by Antonio?

    Or where they making it up as they went along?

  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    D) making it up as they went along...
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Mrs G, please tell, please tell, the suspense is killing me. ;biggrin
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    SuzanneClaret said:

    D) making it up as they went along...

    Final answer Chris.

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  • alderzalderz
    I think that they said it was offside because Antonio was offside. When Slav complained that Feghouli wasn't offside, they said that it was for a foul (he said).

    I think that there is a misunderstanding there, where they meant that Antonio touching the keeper (not fouling) meant he was interfering with play.

    I really don't think we can complain about that.

    For me, the poor decisions were the foul on Feghouli and the foul on Antonio.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    On motd they said he was offside but drew a line from the keeper not the player on the floor not sure if there is some rule involving keepers and offside.?
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