All about rules ... changes, enforcement, VAR etc

Probably needs it's own thread, especially with the changes coming in to the PL next season.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48382254

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  • Scotland were 3-0 up with 20 minutes left and drew 3-3 after having saved a penalty only for VAR to make Argentina take the penalty again.
  • Scotland were 3-0 up with 20 minutes left and drew 3-3 after having saved a penalty only for VAR to make Argentina take the penalty again.

    Was utterly absurd. The rule for goalkeepers moving off their line is nonsense.
    alderz
  • VAR killing football one joke decision at a time.
    LukerzGiant_Hammer
  • It's not VAR as that only allows the implementation of the rules rather than making them, so if the following of the rules is the problem the rules may need changing.

    I think some rules in football have always been accepted as not implemented by referees and the keeper remaining on his line is one, whilst the fouls at corners not given is the other, I look forward to corners being better policed this season. I will say penalties will be much harder to save but is it fair when a keeper saves a penalty two yards off his line by the time the ball was kicked? just as its frustrating when defenders blatantly play the man rather than the ball at a corner.
    MrsGrey
  • VAR is making the correct decision when it comes to keepers on their lines or not, it’s just an absolutely nonsense rule that should never have come in
  • If keepers are allowed off their lines at a penalty then if the kicker takes a long run up the keeper could probably be able to dive st his feet as he kicked it.
    It’s all in the name, it’s a penalty and it’s meant to be in the takers favour.
    IronHerb
  • Being a step in front of the goal line hardly gives the keeper a huge advantage. Penalties are massively to the advantage of the striker already. You may as well just give a penalty goal instead of mucking about with the kick
  • alderz

    But without the law, the keeper could rush out as the kicker is running in.

    There has to be some kind of limit, surely?
  • edited June 20
    How would you rewrite the rule, alderz? Or would you do away with it altogether so that the GK can stand/start where they like? (genuine question)
  • Perhaps we need a 'Penalty' penalty area marked up 1m away from the goal line. :biggrin:
  • Perhaps we need the players to know the rules?
  • The Penalty goal line rule will not be checked by VAR in the Prem next season, it is being left to the referees to police it. Like they police it now I guess. :doh:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48703852
  • Overall, I think VAR is going to be a massive positive for the league, particularly on cut and dry decisions like offside goals.

    For penalties/red cards reviewed by VAR, of course it’s still subjective. But VAR allows the referee to make a more informed decision on big calls, rather than having to decide in a split second.

    But there will be teething problems for at least the next couple of seasons, I’m sure. It isn’t going to be used perfectly this season, but the end result will be positive for the league, IMO.
    MunichHammergrey_til_I_dyeMrsGrey
  • IronHerb said:

    The Penalty goal line rule will not be checked by VAR in the Prem next season, it is being left to the referees to police it. Like they police it now I guess. :doh:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48703852

    Maybe the linos could do it.
  • I believe it is the linos already while the ref checks for encroachment. That works. :lol:
  • edited June 20
    That's what I was thinking :lol:

    Maye we could get a couple of those FIFA/UEFA guys who stand behind the goal. :hmm: :puzzled:
    IronHerb
  • Guarantee we have at least one penalty that we save retaken for Fab coming off his line and the opposition score the retake, and guarantee that we have at least one penalty saved where the keeper comes off his line and there is no retake.

    The rule is stupid, but if it's going to be applied they should be using VAR.
  • Alderz :ok:

    It seems a pretty basic thing for the referee in the VAR booth to be able to spot. Why on earth would they not have the video ref watching, and if the goalkeeper steps off the line they let the ref know in his earpiece? It’s instant and effective.

    I don’t really get it.
  • But you can't move forward before the kick is taken now.

    Calm down dear, calm down.
  • Goal line technology should work if circuits are fitted to goalies boots like the ones in the balls - simples.
  • And if they move from the line before the kick is taken they get zapped with 50 thousand volts :biggrin:
    Colchester_Iron
  • They are still allowed to jump though.
  • MrsGrey said:

    They are still allowed to jump though.

    What with 50,000 vaults in them
    MrsGreychicagohammer
  • Cuz

    Wouldn't you? :biggrin:
    Cuz1
  • VAR working well in the Women’s WC England v Cameroon game.

    On side goal given.

    Off side goal disallowed.
  • Almost chaos after both decisions. Not VAR's fault.
    SuzanneClaret
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