West Ham Vs Brighton 6 point battle (1 Feb match thread)

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  • HamstewHamstew
    Adam said:

    Hamstew said:

    Adam said:

    Hamstew said:

    thornburyiron said:

    I can’t see us getting out of the bottom three again this season. We could be adrift after our next two games and the ones after that aren’t any easier.

    Southampton, Wolves, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea. Disaster
    Have you watched the premier league this season? These certainly aren’t unbeatable teams. The top 6 teams other than Liverpool and Man City are nowhere near the levels they were in previous seasons. Tough? Yes. Disaster? No.
    Lol have you seen us this season? Disaster yes imo.
    No, I haven’t seen us. I just follow our games on ceefax.
    Then you won't know will you. We are trash
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Adam said:

    Hamstew said:

    Adam said:

    Hamstew said:

    thornburyiron said:

    I can’t see us getting out of the bottom three again this season. We could be adrift after our next two games and the ones after that aren’t any easier.

    Southampton, Wolves, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea. Disaster
    Have you watched the premier league this season? These certainly aren’t unbeatable teams. The top 6 teams other than Liverpool and Man City are nowhere near the levels they were in previous seasons. Tough? Yes. Disaster? No.
    Lol have you seen us this season? Disaster yes imo.
    No, I haven’t seen us. I just follow our games on ceefax.
    I used to love doing that, despite how long it took for the correct page to come around again.
  • HamstewHamstew
    SuzanneClaret said:

    Adam said:

    Hamstew said:

    Adam said:

    Hamstew said:

    thornburyiron said:

    I can’t see us getting out of the bottom three again this season. We could be adrift after our next two games and the ones after that aren’t any easier.

    Southampton, Wolves, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea. Disaster
    Have you watched the premier league this season? These certainly aren’t unbeatable teams. The top 6 teams other than Liverpool and Man City are nowhere near the levels they were in previous seasons. Tough? Yes. Disaster? No.
    Lol have you seen us this season? Disaster yes imo.
    No, I haven’t seen us. I just follow our games on ceefax.
    I used to love doing that, despite how long it took for the correct page to come around again.
    Same.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    But I feel mad though Adam.

    Proper barking mad.

    Like never before in my 52 years.

  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited February 2020
    Yes they were Adam but their team seem to be doing something about it
  • HamstewHamstew
    I hope you're right Adam. But personally I just can't see it.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    so we have City away and Liverpool away

    Bournemouth have Sheffield United away / Burnley away
    Brighton have Watford Home / Sheffield United away
    Aston Villa have Spurs at Home / Southampton Away
    Watford have Brighton Away / Man Utd away


    We could be around 4 points behind the chasing pack after those 2 games.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    hard to envisage where we get 12 points from
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited February 2020
    And of course, if our board didn't leave things til the last minute, we could have had Bowen on the bench today. He could have replaced Antonio and carried a similar threat. Maybe we keep the pressure on and win the game.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. This club is failing from the top down. Until we get it right in the boardroom, we'll never get it right on the pitch.

    Thankfully I missed the majority of the game, but got home in time to see the result. This was the first of five must win games. We failed.

    We are done for this league.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Noble should be leading the team by rousing them & making them concentrate to avoid the type of result we have had to endure today because if he is doing this it is obviously failing to have the right outcome. Who is David Moyes defensive coach? The owners didn't want Stuart Pearce back and Alan Stubbs turned us down. I have supported this team over many decades but anymore of the current demise is going to ensure my counsellor becomes a very rich person. :angry:
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Moyes blames fatigue after the Liverpool game and individual errors for today and made the double substitution because he felt with 20 mins to go we should have held out
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Does not look good does it.... at best it appears that our survival is going to go down to the wire, at worst.............. :sofa: :weep: :deadhorse:
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Our main issue is that whatever players we get in we still end up with Noble in midfield. How is that progress ?
    This club will not move forward till he goes
    He wouldn’t get into any other Premier league squads let alone be Captain.
    It’s bad enough playing him but how on earth does a player who tires in every game early who is so slow and who has so little skill stay on for 90 mins?
  • HamstewHamstew
    Huttonhammer said:

    Our main issue is that whatever players we get in we still end up with Noble in midfield. How is that progress ?
    This club will not move forward till he goes
    He wouldn’t get into any other Premier league squads let alone be Captain.
    It’s bad enough playing him but how on earth does a player who tires in every game early who is so slow and who has so little skill stay on for 90 mins?

    I love Nobes but you do make a good point.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    What's our squad for the champo :hmm:
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Just back from game some of the worse defending I have ever seen schoolboy bad. At 3-1 I thought get Antonio off get masuaka legs on . I did not expect such terrible decision making and defending with 15 mins to go I can’t believe how often our team collapses at every set back . I now believe we will go down I feel so low after this game we are so poor we lack any style identify fight passion . I don’t know why noble was still on the pitch he was so far behind the play most of the time . I need several beers 🍺
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited February 2020
    We cant be reliant on Antonio

    Like hes an ok player who causes problems, but he isnt a De Bruyne calibre player......

    Hes a mid table midfielder at best

    We cant fall apart when hes not on the field
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Yeoldhammer said:

    What's our squad for the champo :hmm:

    Kids.
    Leftovers.
    Old guys on a last payday
    Nobes
    Martin
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Pearce we don’t only collapse we implode. Our defending for the second goal was more chuckle brothers than PL players and why was Murray virtually unmarked for his goal. It’s all basic stuff that should be second nature. Clear your lines should be the mantra.
    Agree also that a Noble seems like the kid who’s not really sure what’s happening so jogs around but is never closer than 15 yards from the play.
  • yoyoyoyo
    edited February 2020
    We look a frightened team low of confidence. It's so plain to see. We need a miracle. Watford have picked themselves up lately. We're looking for 2 other teams to be poorer than us ( Norwich looked doomed ) and I can't see where they are.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited February 2020
    So Next Season

    Fabianski - gone
    Martin - stay
    Randolph - stay
    Roberto - (hopefully gone)

    Reid - Finished at every level i'm afraid, gone
    Cresswell - stay
    Balbuena - stay
    Zabaleta - gone
    Obonna - gone ? maybe ?
    Diop - gone
    Fredericks - stay ? maybe ?
    Masuaku - gone

    Lanzini - gone
    Snodgrass - stay
    Sanchez - gone
    Noble - stay
    Fornals - gone ? maybe ?
    Wilshire - Finished at every level i'm afraid but probably too injured to go anywhere else.
    Soucek - gone
    Rice - gone
    Bowen - gone

    Yarmolenko - gone ? maybe ?
    Anderson - gone
    Haller - gone
    Ajeti - stay ? maybe ?
    Antonio - gone

    i reckon the U21s might all stay Diangana / Johnson / Cardoso / Holland etc
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    There are two ingredients for survival in my opinion.

    Pace...... We have very little, so unless we have Antonio, Bowen and Anderson on the pitch we lack this.

    Guts, belief and determination......This comes from the players and manager.

    This can happen.

    As a supporter I still have belief, but only just.
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Is Collins still available on a free?
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    If Noble really is Mr. West Ham, if he truly loves the club as much as he claims (and I don't doubt him), he should acknowledge he needs to withdraw himself from the first team.
  • alderzalderz
    I’m sorry but that is nonsense.

    What’s the plan? Noble sits on the bench so Sanchez can play?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    He kind of has. He’s been quoted as saying that at his age there should be younger players challenging for his place and making it more difficult for him to be selected but unfortunately there aren’t.
    Maybe the new guy who played today will be that player.
  • alderzalderz
    Noble should have been replaced by the management of this club. It’s not his fault he is the best we have to offer and the way people go after him - particularly after our centre backs and goalkeeper have been the standout terrible players - is exactly why we don’t get loyal players anymore, imo.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    BubblesNeverDies said:

    If Noble really is Mr. West Ham, if he truly loves the club as much as he claims (and I don't doubt him), he should acknowledge he needs to withdraw himself from the first team.

    He is never going to do that.

    He will always back himself and so should he.
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    edited February 2020
    Credit to the Brighton manager whose substitutions targeted our left side and we crumbled. Masuaku should have been the right player to replace Antonio to counteract this but he had a shocking 15 minutes. Astonishing how poor we looked after Antonio came off. How can the confidence of so many players disappear so quickly ? This feels like more than 2 points lost - it feels like any fragile self belief we may have had had is now history. The team need a psychologist more than a manager at the moment.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    The substitutions today made sense at the time but nobody could have predicted the chaos or catastrophe our defence would cause despite the fact that we do it virtually every game.
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