Everton (A) - 16 Sept 18 4pm ko - Match Thread

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  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Pelle says that what actually happened with Perez is that he wanted to send Perez on for Arnie, but looked around and saw Perez sitting down and Antonio warming up, and decided to send Antonio on instead because Antonio was ready.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    I hope that helps with your depression Steve
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Rica and Obiang with Noble as the link up man.

    Also Everton were pants.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Obiang's energy and ability to choose a pass quickly makes a massive different and I think it helped Rice a lot. Rice was so composed on the ball, playing some very nice passes and always making the right decision. Exactly what we need in that position.

    Based on that, Wilshere and Noble will have to fight for the same role because Obiang and Rice put in the best midfield showings we've seen this season.

    There's something quite nice about Anderson's style of play. He's got the flare but he saves it for when it's useful, not for extravagance.

    Diop looking better with every game as well, I think. And we've got a bit more solid since he came in.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    Pelle says that what actually happened with Perez is that he wanted to send Perez on for Arnie, but looked around and saw Perez sitting down and Antonio warming up, and decided to send Antonio on instead because Antonio was ready.

    That's plausible. Maybe the pics of one of the coaching team sitting talking with Perez on the bench was of him explaining the decision to Perez:- it needed to be a quick substitution because it was an injury (and we don't want Arnie playing on for 5 minutes while someone gets warmed up, imo!) Also fits with the idea that we probably wouldn't be planning to bring Noble off and putting Perez on at that stage of the game, d'you think?


  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2018
    PS, Perez says he isn't averse to being locked in a room with suz for 5 minutes.

    ;biggrin
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Watched the game with a very good mate who is a Toffee.

    The art of gloating without gloating...
  • stevesteve
    Cuz yes it does plus the pills and wine ;biggrin
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    happy happy joy joy
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited September 2018
    Fantastic result & a very efficient performance. Still things to work on but amazing how a few tweaks in personnel means you can look a lot more balanced. A different level of intensity from the Wolves game.

    Yarmolenko was fantastic & only really looked 60%. Got fantastic feet the way he keeps the ball. Not very quick but very assured in possession. Two fantastic finishes.

    Glad to see Obiang get a start as I thought he was decent in his Wolves cameo. Although his passes can be erratic, he moves the ball very quickly & played vital roles in two of the goals. Him & Rice were excellent & both shielded Balbuena & Diop. Pelle is going to have to accept that two of Sanchez/Obiang/Rice are going to be required in this formation for it to work. Otherwise we can't justify the creative options.

    Anderson was excellent. Plays the game in gear 2 & then jumps straight to 5 in the blink of an eye. Made all the right decisions, ghosted past players & got us up the pitch. Other than that stupid dive he was very good.

    Arnie was Arnie. Another massive performance from him.

    Thought the full-backs were both solid (big thumbs up to Zabaleta who I am often critical of). Diop played well too. Still not sold on Balbeuna but I suppose you need consistency in the CB area.

    And Nobes being back in the middle makes a massive difference. We countered very quickly. Definitely going to get a lot of points on the road with those options. I think we have the attacking players to outscore most sides away from home, if we are 'on it'.

    Delighted with the win. Takes the (ridiculous) pressure off Pelle & gets that monkey off our back. Really felt we'd fold after 1-2 but fair play to the lads.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    From the post-match interviews:
    Everton defender Mason Holgate on Match of the Day: "It was massively disappointing. We went in expecting to win so it's three points dropped.
    "We started well and then they scored and after that we were shaky. We would have expected to create more chances, too.
    "Losing 3-1 at home is never good enough for us, especially, with respect, against a team who didn't have any points yet.
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    Not much else to say except that I'm absolutely delighted. I think we'll be ok long term because we've got goals in us but the defence still worries me at times. Onwards & upwards & of course, Come On You Irons!!!!!
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    It’s nice to have some positivity on here for a change think now the monkeys off our backs we be fine, the only way is up
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Glad I was proved wrong in that I thought we would have nil points after seven games. ;doh ;whistle

    To add to the celebrations today on a personal front mini me scored and captained his team to their first league win of the season. SNAP! ;biggrin
  • welovethehammerswelovethehammers
    I'd like us to stick with the same team in future with the exception being Cresswell coming in for Masuaku.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    So many positives to take from that result and performance - but seriously, how good was Declan Rice, he put on a masterclass that was way beyond his years.

    Pretty certain he has secured his name on our first team sheet after this afternoon.

    Coyi
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited September 2018
    My 2 stand out players were Anderson & Obiang...
    that sounds wrong when a player scores 2, but these 2 impressed me the most.
    certainly we needed those 3 points & against Everton is always a bonus IMO..
    As for Perez, if true, he needs to change his attitude or sold in Jan.
    And yesterday was my 4th week of non smoking, didn't even have the urge,
    thanks West Ham!
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    ;smoking
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Got to get Rice a new contract
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    I`m sorry, but far too many times yesterday we were looking to pass the ball forwards. Moyes in.

    ;scarf
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Arnie picked in Garth Crooks' team of the week.
  • heathrowhammerheathrowhammer
    It's great to wake up feeling positive.
    The team looked balanced and a great effort all around. Our fans were fantastic.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    And still believe there’s more to come also when they’ve played together more, thort rice was superb marshalling the defence and to be fair the defence did get the blocks in and looked a bit more organised
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Great result. The only thing that disappointed me was the reaction of some posters on here to Perez "refusing to play", it being based on a Sky (read: fake news) commentator's opinion. Talk about lynch mob - ;nonono
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    to be fair, it wasn't an 'opinion'.
    The Sky commentator said he'd 'been told'. So it was incorrect information he was given. Nothing wrong with passing that on imo, particularly as the post-match interview tried to clarify whether or not it was accurate info.
  • puddleglumhammerspuddleglumhammers
    At last Pelle knows what we all suspected - Rice is our best option as holding midfield and, sorry to go a bit biblical, upon this rock he can build his side. Obiang and Noble played so much better with Rice behind them. Dare I say Rice has a touch of the Bobby Moore composure about him. Early days but he could be a really good player.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Just need to get him a new contract then ;whistle
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Well that made the drive home on the cone infested M6 so much more enjoyable.

    It wasn't so far away from the Arsenal performance with the exception of us burying the ball in the opponents net when the opportunities arrived.
    I think we saw Pelles influence start to show through with the performances of Rice and Obiang. We know what they can do but they both showed deft passing ability which was previously missing. On this Rice performance Diers England spot would be under threat.
    It was strange to watch at times as you found yourself thinking 'just clear it upfield' but then we played it out and you think 'yeah, that's the way.'
    I'm not sure why Arthur is taking so much stick. He's not the best at defending, no worse than Cresswell, but gives us an out ball and sometimes a spark of genius.
    Leon Osman described Yarmolenko as a tricky winger built like a centre forward and he showed that in spades yesterday.
    Too many good performances to decide upon a MOTM for me. All we need to do now is show the same intent and level of performance.

    COYI
  • stevesteve
    Nice bit about us from Leon Osman on the bbc ,just about sums us up I think
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    But Leon Osman also notes the one thing about Yarmelenko to. His whole career is cutting inside on his left and curling it in. Once teams clock onto this a large portion of his game will be cut out.
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