World Cup KO: En-ger-land, En-ger-land, En-ger-land (was 'Group G')

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  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Literally, had just been reading that, via the BBC, when you posted it. A good read ;ok

    I skipped on to the Shaqiri one.

    Are they ghost-written, do you know? Or based on interviews?

    I like the concept, the 1st person thing. But the website doesn't tell you much about how they put their articles together.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    With Lukaku, they spent about four hours with him. I think it's mostly an interview but they get them to speak in the way they want it written. Their people then edit it up but the guy behind the Lukaku one said it's mostly about grammar.

    BBC and others do similar things with the analysis you see from some footballers.

    I like the concept. I imagine a lot of footballers aren't so confident in their own writing ability and would probably just procrastinate if they agreed to write it themselves.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;ok

    I was wondering how much the style reflects the 'voice' (if you know what I mean). I thought the Lukaku one had a very London 'vernacular' which (to me) made it sound less authentic.

    But I don't really know what Lukaku sounds like when he's speaking English (assuming they do the interviews in English) so I may be making incorrect assumptions. ;puzzled
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited June 2018
    I was wondering how much the style reflects the 'voice' (if you know what I mean). I thought the Lukaku one had a very London 'vernacular' which (to me) made it sound less authentic.
    Carl Anka, the guy who edited, said he changed very little. I think it was colloquial but the style of speaking's unsurprising as you see how quickly footballers pick up the language of the local players around them. E.G. Bilic's "to be honests"

    Just reading the Shaqiri one. Another great read.

    You have all these things mentioned in passing in the supercritical, run-of-the-mill footballer interviews - that Sterling's father was killed, Lukaku's family came from Congo, Shaqiri's from Kosovo – but what all that meant to them is never explored.

    A lot of people might not care or might even dislike this view but that kind of thing's made me feel a lot more connected to the England team this time. It's more of a mix that reflects what the PL has looked like for a long time and them playing well would really reflect something positive about our society and stick it to the tabloids and some of our politicians. France did that in '98 (even if it maybe didn't last).
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited June 2018
    OutcastLondoner said:



    You have all these things mentioned in passing in the supercritical, run-of-the-mill footballer interviews

    ?superficial, did you mean to type.


    Yes, I like the insight it gives. They are actually quite ordinary people, who are currently doing extraordinary things.

    (Referring to the interview subjects, not the England team.)
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Yes, autocorrect. Most interviews with footballers follow a set format that's boring.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    ;ok Outcast

    Just read that on Twitter, it was a great read.
  • ChappersChappers
    Thanks for sharing those - quite interesting to read.

    I have to admit the stories of the 3 I read were a little strange to me. All 3 (Sterling, Shaqiri, Lukaku) were almost written in the past tense - as if 'I've made it now I play as a professional and I'm rich'.

    There wasn't much of thinking of the next level and kicking on to reach greatness or international accolades.

    Interesting to read nontheless.

    I'm probably being a bit harsh TBF
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    I think they get asked about that kind of stuff a lot in general interviews and they'll generally say the same things because they have the same goals in football. The point was to show the human side - what they went through to get where they are.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    tbf, the focus in all 3 pieces was (it seems to me) about their history ... roots, childhood influences, what drove them, getting into football, how they got their first big break and so on.
  • alderzalderz
    I read the Keisuke Honda one too and that was really good and interesting
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Its easy to see how driven Honda is ;wink
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Baz. BAZ.

    You'll be needing this: ;yercoat
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    Not when the engine is put in a McLaren.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    PrestonHammer said:

    Not when the engine is put in a McLaren.

    You want to put an engine on a pram? Really? ;lol ;yercoat
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    It's a long way to the nursery. ;yercoat
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    Out the pair of you! ;lol
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Baz. BAZ.

    You'll be needing this: ;yercoat

    Oh come on! That had a Baz reply written all over it...



  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    How many more times is Phil Neville going to say Belgium are too quick for Tunisia?

    #sevenandcounting
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Tunisia not having a lot of luck with injuries
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    It’s because the great Neville has said there too quick for the Tunisians lol
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    How quick are these Belgians?

    ;run
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Another Tunisian gone off on a stretcher. What's ''are you West Ham in disguise'' in Arabic?
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    MrsGrey said:

    How many more times is Phil Neville going to say Belgium are too quick for Tunisia?

    #sevenandcounting

    Just be grateful that you don’t have to listen to the commentators on Fox Sports.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    Tunisia are giving Belgium a game, though. Lots of errors but they are creating their chances. I expect England will go through to the next round tomorrow, though.
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    Appalling clearance attempt leads to Belgian 3rd.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    Another Tunisian gone off on a stretcher. What's ''are you West Ham in disguise'' in Arabic?

    انت وست هام بالمتنكر؟


  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    What are the chances of no goals in the 2nd half so that I can pick up 2 points?

    I think the choices are “no” or “fat”.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    So Bats could of had a five minute hat trick. ;doh
  • Giant_HammerGiant_Hammer
    MrsGrey said:

    How many more times is Phil Neville going to say Belgium are too quick for Tunisia?

    #sevenandcounting

    Ha ha Mrs Grey, I missed the first couple of minutes and then spent the rest of the first half muttering to myself that I wish Kevin Kilbane would shut up. Then he must have morphed into Phil Neville. ;lol
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