The relegation battle - get out of my league!

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  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:premier-league/form/matches:6/type:home-and-away

    If we assume that Burnley are gonna at least get 6 points in their next 14 games then it makes for interesting reading this....Huddersfield are flying down, and so are brighton... interesting to see how bad form Watford (same points as us) and Everton (only 2 pts ahead) have been. Just goes to show how tight it is down there

    From 20th to 9th there is only 8 points....

    I agree with Luke though, without Lanzini + Arnie it looks a lot more dangerous for us...we really need to add some quality to the team as by the time they come back we may well be right in the mix
  • imagelostimagelost
    Like beating Chelsea and so on
    And losing to Brighton 3 nil
    Who knows ,,, gottto get stuck in and try,, and hopefully win ;cheers
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    A week ago I also was very confident, confident that West Ham would so engineer it that I would once again have that familiar scary feeling running through my veins.

    We will do this and wriggle our way to safety, but we never make it easy or comfortable for ourselves.

    Now THAT is the West Ham way ;wink
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Capture

    Not a great deal of change after the latest round of matches. We remain 4 clear of 18th, and have the 2nd best 'last 6' form.

    I've added in the Last 10 games form to get a clearer idea of where teams are heading.

    Bournemouth head out of the bottom half, making way for Watford, who seem to be in free fall, taking just 2 points in the last 6 games, the same as Huddersfield.

    Brighton have the third worst last 6 record, taking just 3 points.

    It's worth noting that outside the games with the top 6 (and Swansea and Bournemouth have shown that there are no certainties) teams in the bottom 10 will mostly be playing each other.


  • secrethammersfansecrethammersfan
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Capture

    It's worth noting that outside the games with the top 6 (and Swansea and Bournemouth have shown that there are no certainties) teams in the bottom 10 will mostly be playing each other.


    Except for any games with the remaining four teams?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    shf

    Well, yeah, hence 'mostly'. And that should be 3, really, since B'mouth in 10th are just a point ahead of us.

    Frankly, I couldn't be bothered to go through and check each team's set of fixtures, but if you want to do a list...
  • stevesteve
    so 12 games left 5 against the top 6 that leaves 7 ,so we have to win 4 out of those 7 ,just hope man city have won the title by the time they come calling .I do think we might need 39 points
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Swansea have lost fer and bony for the rest of the season big loss for them
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    But they have got ayew to come back
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Well if what a lot of posters on here reckon is true he won't offer them anything.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    thorn

    Not sure too may people said he was 'just no good'.

    He was never really any good for us, and I don't think there was any value in us keeping him, but I'm pretty sure he can still impact games.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    This season Ayew scored 3 in 18 Premier League appearances, 9 starts and 9 subs. He might do better with Swansea but he wasn't doing the business for us..
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Problem is see is the (so called) smaller clubs having a lot more desire. We have quite a few players who seem not to care less.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Cresswell has said "we didn't react well to going behind again". My question is why not as it should be a normal reaction especially for professionals.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Who ibl?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2018
    thornburyiron said:

    Cresswell has said "we didn't react well to going behind again". My question is why not as it should be a normal reaction especially for professionals.

    Depend what he means by reacting well. If he means getting the upper hand and going on to win... well, if only it was so easy, thorn.



  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    From what he said I think he meant that they virtually didn't react at all. He said they didn't look like scoring in the second half and just didn't react.
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    IronHerb said:

    Who ibl?

    Pretty much the entire team yesterday. The have the attitude of doing what’s asked of them, rather than giving their all.

  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Disagree, totally disagree. Adrian, Ginge, Noble and others? I don't think so.
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    They were all half asleep yesterday.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Ginge is a warrior and we could do with more with his attitude BUT yesterday he didn't cover himself in glory.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    There's not playing well, yesterday, and not caring less.
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    I would give Ginge a 4 year co react if I was in charge, he had one of his mild games and doesn’t take the game by the horns, no one does, that’s the issue. Too many players go through the motions
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    OldCastleSwift said:

    I predicted a loss but very pleased to be wrong.

    Arnautovic makes such a big difference to this team. Glad to have him back, and with Hernandez in form and Antonio and Lanzini coming back, we should have enough attacking quality to get the points to stay up.

    Well done team, and well done Moyes ;clap

    you hope so but our games left leaves it still a hard task. 5 of our last 11 are against the Top 6. then 3 more of those games are against teams above us Leicester / Burnley / Everton. 3 against Swansea / Southampton / Stoke. 2 of those at home 1 away. You would hope that we win those 2 homes games.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    That's what I'm looking at Yeold, Stoke and Southampton. Six points from those two.

    Then even a point from Burnley and Swansea should see us safe with 38, and anything else along the way would be a bonus.

    Won't be easy, but with our front four fit and firing we should be ok.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    WIth Arnie, Antonio, Hernandez and Lanzini all on the pitch together, we’ll cause problems for any team.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    MrsGrey said:

    My tea leaves, when I chucked 'em in the bin, spelled out 'a glorious win, and we won't be looking down again for the rest of the season #IronsIronsIrons'.

    Trust the tea leaves.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Think people are over-thinking our games left, without taking our form, or that of other teams, into account.

    In 16 games under Moyes we have taken 21 points, an average of 1.3 points per game.

    That included games against 4 of the top 6, and, for a lot of that time, teams above us.

    We're 7th in the last 6 form table with only Swansea and Bournemouth above us (outside top 6)

    We're 6th in the last 10 form table, with only top 6 clubs above us.

    Taking that into account, it is reasonable to imagine that we will collect 12-15 points from our final 11 games.

  • imagelostimagelost
    Starting to think, maybe better play top six rather then bottom six, relegation teams battling to stay up,,, as long as we are not part the bottom six ;ok
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    We'll be alright.

    Today Huddersfield play Bournemouth who are only a point ahead of us, Newcastle play ManU and Southampton play Liverpool.

    Then next gameweek there are a lot of 6 pointers for teams around and below us.
    Bournemouth - Newcastle, Brighton - Swansea, Watford - Everton.

    The week after that it's Southampton - Stoke, we play Swansea, Watford West Brom.

    They are all going to take points from each other.

    I reckon West Brom are down. The other two might still save themselves but no way are that many team going to bypass us.
    I know I predicted a high points relegation but I am going to take that back. I now reckon we will know at least one and possibly two relegated teams by early March (if not mathmatically certain but at least higly probable)
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