The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...
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It's gonna take a long time before that feels comfortable - but I'm up for it! ;scarf
You'd have to hope so.
The bottom half of the table this year is full of pretty mediocre teams, and our squad should be better than most of them over a season.
He has failed at his last 3 clubs, anyone arguing that , well sorry IMO it's fact...
But I still will give him the benefit, for now...
But I do fear this is a huge mistake
Didn't see any ex Sunderland or his Spanish team , or even Man U for that matter, so we going back to quite a few years who actually worked with him, apart from
Charlie Adam ;doh
He 'failed' at Man Utd by not being as good as Red Nose but was in fact better than VanGrumpy. I'd have been please to finish the season where they did under Moyes.
He 'failed' in Spain but not many British managers excel over there.
He 'failed' at Sunderland along with many many others - Sunderland's fall is all down to their owners and the way the club is run.
Bilic failed and that (imho) had little to *nothing to do with G/S/B and how the club is run.
*I am aware others in here will disagree.
Writing in her Sun column in April, West Ham's vice-chairman Karren Brady said Moyes' words were "just another brilliant example of the pressure women are under to laugh off these everyday moments of sexism as a joke".
She added: "The threat to give someone a slap, no matter how you look at it, is aggressive. It is not banter. And it is not OK.
"I would like to think that any man who worked for me - no matter how wound up they feel by a reporter who is simply doing her job well - would not threaten to slap a woman.
"One of things I find most objectionable in this whole story is his reference to Sparks as being a 'girl', when he said he had apologised to her.
"She's not a girl. She is a woman and a professional. To call someone a girl is belittling, disrespectful and a real indication that you don't see her as an equal.
"Hopefully the penny has dropped for him that it's not OK to patronise, intimidate and threaten women and treat them as if they are imposters in a man's world."
This taken from
The beeb today , so I guess that Ms Brady took some convincing or accepted he realised he mucked up...
Suzanne, I understand where u coming from but still no change in end result ...
You can not choose when to have morals and when to not, or when to be offended and when to turn a blind eye.
Just think
It's ironic we end up hiring him
Moyes may have been stupid, but wasn't, imo, being sexist.
In fact, you could argue that he was treating the reporter exactly as he would a man, and ignoring her sex altogether.
And as Suze says, not sure a genuine feminist would find it in them to write for the Sun.
Sexism - be it low level or not - is NOT BANTER!
It is for many women, intimidating and belittling.
I do think context is important. And the relationship between the principals ... I understand DM and the journalist are friends, so what he said has to be taken in that context too - there may be an in-joke, for example.
For me, it is clear he misjudged the tone to take in a professional/work setting. Further than that, I can't go. I did, though, feel that it was jumped on by the press and there was a lot of faux outrage expressed. Not so say hypocritical, in some cases.
It is clear that much of the sports press would love nothing more than another 'Moyes falls on his face' story.
Where other mangers might have been allowed some early leeway (e.g had it been Dyche, and we'd lost our first few games under him, I'm sure he would have been 'facing a Herculean task', and that it 'will take time for the players to understand what he wants') should Moyes get off to anything less than a decent start I suspect the knives (already out) will start plunging.
When you think of the free ride managers like Sparky get, it doesn't seem fair.
And poor old Tony Pulis had to tell the press he was under pressure after his worst ever start to a season, as they hadn't seemed to notice.
Of course, they haven't really gone, have they. Sadly.
I happen to think that Stuart Pearce in a managerial position of any description is extremely poor. Just like other former players who played with passion and aggression like Roy Keane and Dicks.
My scepticism of Moyes’ appointment might have been tempered slightly had he chosen an alternative right hand person
Only Difference IMO tho between Pulis , Dyche & Hughes is none have been a bit let's say "poor" in his last 3 positions, regardless of clubs, if we comparing WBA , Burnley , Stoke & let's say Sunderland..
But that's it for me, I've accepted the fact in his appointment and hope he can make things the way we all want..