Liverpool (H) who will leak the least (4th November match thread)

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  • LukerzLukerz
    Claret - being reported that Moyes and Phil Neville will replace Bilic for remainder of season.

    Would be absolutely shocking from the Dave’s. Talk about absolutely no ambition. Need to sell up.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    And there I was mocking Leicester for appointing Puel
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
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  • PengemanPengeman
    WHU board should give Westley a go as Bilic has now passed the point of no return. He knows the club and U23s play good football. Moyes and Neville - no. Wasn't Neville a disaster in the short time that he had as a manager. It is not just the manager, the team looks unbalanced, and Hernandez and Arnie don't fit it and other don't look motivated or bothered. Also strange team choices. what is the point of having an U23 teams if t he understudies don't get a game when senior players are injured. So no RB from U23 was promoted? Why unbalance the whole team by putting in a player who isn't a RB and Kouyate could not do that job in the second half either.

    I don't buy - it is the stadium excuse. I did not affect Liverpool or Brighton.

    The aim is now clear - to stay in EPL.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    Moyes himself wont even believe the phone is ringing, that how low his stock is. He would probably think it a wind up and tell them where to go.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    edited November 2017
    Whilst I agree that I do not really want Moyes as our manager, seriously what better/bigger managers would touch us at the moment? Again, I'm not the biggest fan of the Dave's but they can't get who won't come.

    What manager would you suggest if we sack Billic Lukerz? Same question to others too, because I cannot think of an ambitious, ball playing, respected manager who I believe would join us in our current situation?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    well they have brought it on themselves. They should perhaps have learned to conduct themselves a little better.

  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    That may well be true but it doesn't answer the question posed.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited November 2017
    Rafa, Dyche, Howe, Wagner, Silva and Koeman to name 6.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Lukerz, do you really believe any of those 6 would want to join us at the moment?
  • LukerzLukerz
    I’d bet money on at least one being interested.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I’d even take wolves’ manager right now. Not that he’d come - I think he probably got more net transfer monies to spend than Slav did over the summer ;lol
  • sweepy23sweepy23
    We are supposedly in the top 20 richest football clubs in the world. I don’t think it’s too hard to find a decent manager. Some clubs have had 2 or 3 great managers on the trott. We’re just run like pawnbrokers.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Even now Slav still says you can't fault the effort.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Rafa - currently manager at a team 6 places higher, about to have fresh investment.

    Dyche - currently at a team 10 places higher, at a club that probably wouldn't sack him even if he got relegated.

    Howe- currently at a team only 1 place higher, but akin to Dyche the club/fans love him and even if relegated they would keep him, plus if he did leave even rumours Arsenal would like him if Wenger retires end of this season.

    Wagner - currently at a team 7 places higher, also a team that doesn't expect much and again he may well keep his job even if they were relegated.

    Silva - currently at a team 8 places higher, again at a team with low expectations, and if he chose to leave could find a bigger club than us (this also applies to the four above).

    Koeman - this is the only possibility as he currently is unemployed and his reputation is a bit damaged after Everton. However because his record has recently been tarnished would he really want to join a team that is hovering around and could possibly be relegated and further damage his standing? That's not going to get him the Barca job.

    Not trying to call you out, I'm just trying to assess the situation and be realistic. We are not a good job prospect at the moment when we are looking like potential relegation candidates.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    We were crying out for someone like Marco Silva before the season had even started
  • stevesteve
    I would take Decanio over moyes any day, at lest it would be a fun journey ,where is he by the the way ;hug
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Baracks, again this is probably correct but that was then this is now. We can only affect from today onwards, so once again I pose the question that you seem to continue to avoid..
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Florin,

    Huddersfield, Burnley, Watford, Bournemouth and Newcastle might be above us at the moment, but I really don't think that is all a manager would consider when weighing up a job offer.

    If somebody gets out good players playing, and gets the club 'right', gets our 60,000 seater stadium going, I'm fairly sure we'd easily overtake those teams, if not this season then next. And stay there.

    Apart from Newcastle, the other four teams will eventually get relegated and struggle to come back up.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    West Ham would be a step up for someone like Dyche, for example

    He can plug away at Burnley but eventually the spectre of relegation would likely come to bear at some point

    We have, on paper, decent players - better players than Burnley and more than enough time to right the wrongs
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Jorderz, posted this on the Slav thread to a similar reply:
    Sweepy , all that is true and pre-season makes us a good 'project' and an attractive job. However right now we are mid season and potential relegation candidates and that changes things drastically, with players who aren't looking good. Managers fear their reputation being damaged (look at what happened with Koeman) and wouldn't want to touch us at this moment in time when we are in this situation.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    edited November 2017
    Basically, yes we are (IMO) 'bigger' clubs than Watford, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, and Burnley, and if this was out of season I would think a manger of one of them would be potentially interested in making the switch. But right now, at this point in time almost a third of the way through the season it would be a huge risk for them to move to us. They are all in pretty cushty positions and if they are ambitious to move on can do so at the end of the season. But to do so now, to a team in our position one point above the drop, with fans who expect much more, and no huge war chest, it is far too big a risk on their current high reputations (IMO obvs).
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Just as you say managers fear damaging their reputation, you can easily say managers are looking for a quick opportunity to rebuild their reputation. The longer you're out of a job, the harder it is to get another one. Surely these managers have confidence to pick us up. It isn't even like we're cut adrift at the bottom of the league. 3 wins on the bounce and we're top half.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    All fair points Jorderz ;ok
    However it is my belief that while we are looking so poor we come across as a risk too great. Obviously someone will take a chance and jump at the position (should we sack Slav) but I don't think it will be any of the six Lukerz suggested, nor can I think of any inspiring to me managers who would.
  • imagelostimagelost
    Moyes you are joking
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    3 wins on the bounce? At the moment I'd be ecstatic with 1 win.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    sweepy23 said:

    We are supposedly in the top 20 richest football clubs in the world. I don’t think it’s too hard to find a decent manager. Some clubs have had 2 or 3 great managers on the trott. We’re just run like pawnbrokers.

    Pretty sure we’re not the top 20 “richest”, probably top 20 “income”?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Worryingly 4 of our next 5 games are live on Sky so more misery for more people.
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    horshamhammer said:

    Had 1-4 in the predictor. Should have had a bet.

    Me too!
  • imagelostimagelost
    thornburyiron said:

    Worryingly 4 of our next 5 games are live on Sky so more misery for more people.

    Good
    Everyone can be tormented
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