West Ham vs Southampton

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  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    To be fair we have looked bright in the opening few minutes of the second half - Mavro unlucky with a strong strike
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Oh my who knew that Killman had that in his locker - really unlucky
  • LukerzLukerz
    Hermansen really poor on the goals
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    We've had a number of chances in the second half but their goalkeeper has made some good saves and the bar kept out Kilman.
    Time is running out though. We need a goal soon.
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    Some surprising substitutions
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    subs have killed the game for us. Taty still on the pitch is a mystery
  • stevesteve
    Never mind top 2 .Be lucky to get top 8 at this rate
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    Has Piroe touched the ball yet?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Hopefully they’ll sit down and look at the games we’ve lost or drawn and see that in all those games the opposition had started from kick off but we started at least 20 minutes later.
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    5 minutes to rescue this game.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Too little too late now. 2-3
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    Soucek!!!!
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    We have 10 outfield players on the pitch who are better at attacking than defending.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    A win would have put us top.
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Commentators on my stream say the referee has been a disgrace.
  • PengemanPengeman
    Very disappointing. A game lost in the first 11 minutes by the now customary slow start. Our midfield is too porous and strikers don't look like scoring. Can't live on reputations, need to roll up sleeves for the 90 minutes
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Does NES need to look to change the team? I know its only our second league defeat but as I said earlier this month in very few of the games, I know we have won them, have we looked that convincing. Awaits the what do you expect comments we couldn't get the better players because we aren't in the Premier League anymore!
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    EXETERHAMMER said:

    Time for Taty to turn up

    Well he definitely didn’t do that
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I didn't see the match so can't comment on that. I did look at other results and the table however, Swansea lost 5-0 yet started the day on top. We at present sit three points from top with very superior goal difference which is hardly a failure to achieve our aim at this stage, we are three points from sitting on top.

    There are issues in that we paid a lot of attention to the attack in the summer and maybe not enough to the defence. Hence we are outscoring everyone but it's not enough to win at times as we concede also, we shouldn't really be conceding three goals at home to anyone in the Championship, I doubt Arsenal or City will be doing so in the Premier league this season. This can be rectified in the winter window hopefully.

    I'm not panicking at all, after next week we have a November full of winnable matches and I expect us to be in the top two comfortably by the end of November with an even better goal difference.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    NES should just let us attack from the start like we did v Wrexham even though Lincoln got six put past them we made heavy weather in doing that.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Taty #53 striker on the bin off list. Offers nothing positive to the team. Would immediately look to move on in January along with Alvarez / Magassa and a few others.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited October 24
    I’m not overly concerned by the outcome, I always worried this may be a slip up, 9 unbeaten, not great weather, against a strong, technical side - we won’t have many harder games other than maybe Boro & Millwall.

    We started badly & that cost us, between minutes 11 & FT we were by far the better side, had loads of chances, half chances, openings & should have got more goals than we did. You may argue we should do, with our squad, but we dominated.

    We are always ropey at the back when KWP plays over Veltman - I posted the stats the other day & the dramatic difference in our defensive records. We don’t have a dominant striker so we will rely on goals from all areas but today it wasn’t about goals & chances, it was the first 11 minutes. Their keeper was MOTM.

    The big question is why do we repeatedly start hesitantly, game on game? Why have the coaching staff & players not been able to sort that issue out? We will get away with it against 21/23 teams in this league, we won’t against a side as good as Saints.

    Even then, we should have scored 4/5.
  • stevesteve
    Taty was good for us last season .And I was happy we got to keep him .Like some others I thought he would score 15 to 20 for us .However for what ever reason its not working for him or us .He does seem better with Pablo up there or someone close to him .I seem to remember reading he wanted out in the summer not sure if that's true or not ..But he's not the player he was last season He got a couple of yellow cards in early games so perhaps that has taken the edge off him
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited October 24
    I like Taty, we seem to love to turn quickly on our players - happened constantly since I have supported the club. Soucek, Kilman, Mavropanos to name a few of the current side.

    He has done lots right, he’s not a world beater but he will get more goals & has contributed a lot to us since January.
  • Brother_SledgeBrother_Sledge
    Pretty sure their trainer came on to treat the keeper twice and neither time an outfield player had to leave the pitch for a minute
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    edited October 24
    I would like to see Austbo starting and I think Nuno could experiment rather than thinking he needs be a left winger or wing back, as he clearly prefers Soloman as a starter. We used to bring Bowen in last year and I may like to see Austbo instead of Tatty perhaps or alongside him even if adopting 4-4-2. The speed of Austbo, Soloman, Bowen and Tatty would terrify these defences. He has great control, speed and has shown he can finish.

    I am not sure about Engals as well and feel Soucek may be a better starter, I am unsure as Engals does have decent games but also goes missing a bit at times.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I would also be in favour of using Golambekis more also. I've liked what I have seen and feel we need give him time in the champo so we can see if he can make the grade. Nuno clearly knows Kilman couldn't go back to the Prem so maybe allow Golanbeckis a chance to have an education at this level.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited October 25
    We need to learn and fast that we’ve got 34 more difficult and tough 90 plus minute and not 60 minute matches to come or we will at best only scrape into the playoffs or at worst face at least another season in this league.
    We have a healthy goal difference largely courtesy of a woefully poor Wrexham on the night and a 9 man Lincoln.
    Teams don’t need to spy on us to know that we are generally comatose for the first 20 minutes of games and yesterday wasn’t the first time that teams have taken advantage of this but like against Charlton we couldn’t recover.
    Nuno, Bowen and others at the club always acknowledge this but for some reason the players can’t seem to get it out of their system.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited October 25
    @thornburyiron makes many valid points, why oh why do we usually start so slow.
    What can NES and his assistants do to install a different mentality into this squad.
    IMO he has probably the best squad available to him, even though he's stubborn and refuses to let a couple join in, similar to what he did to JWP....
    NES needs to sort it and sort it quick, Middlesborough, Southampton, Birmingham are all good teams, although I still think we generally have a superior squad, but it's up to NES to sort this issue out, he improved our defence last season, by stopping so many goals conceded at corners but this season some of our defending is school boy stuff.....All IMO.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited October 25
    Nuno is having to go against his usual principles, he hasn’t managed to sort these starts out yet because he is by default about shape, so when you attack in a shape, you generally remain in fixed positions & go through the lines in your shape. That often translates to cautious, slow starts. Saints are more fluid. But it was in their game plan to start fast, Nuno may have anticipated that & wanted us to soak up the pressure & hit on the break, but when KWP doesn’t get close to his man on a cross or Hermansen flaps at crosses & saves, he can’t do too much about that.

    I think Nuno & the players have, generally, adapted well to this league. There are still a lot of new players & a high squad turnover, we are having to play a completely different way with huge pressure on us &, tbf, 3 points off top, 12 games in, is a decent return. I think we have to be a bit more patient as fans & less reactive game on game (myself included).
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