Transfer Deadline Day: It's weird because it's October

OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
in Transfer Speculation
So here we are again. The Day of Days is upon us and maybe we'll finally sign the centre back that Moyes wanted back in July.

Elsewhere, will Liverpool sign a new 'keeper now that the reality has dawned that Adrian isn't 'the best reserve 'keeper in the world'?

Will Man Utd sign a defence?

Has Patrice Evra calmed down yet?

A lot of questions will be answered over the course of the next 14 hours or so, so buckle in and get ready for the ride.
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  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Posted this on the other thread:

    So best case looking like we will do some loan deals today

    Tah and Grujic on loan (hopefully with options to buy) would imo be two great pieces of business and address two of the biggest weaknesses in our squad

    Then hopefully we can bring in another striker and LWB but I think that will be unlikely as I can't see us getting in more than 2 (if that)

    Atm I feel like we have a squad of 15, the 11 thats played yesterday then Diop, Fredericks, Noble and Haller

    All of the others I don't think Moyes fancies or trusts, they are just there because we can't shift them
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited October 2020
    Champo 👍

    Four players would be ideal; LWB to cover Masuaku, CB to give us another option as we're playing three, CM to cover Rice and Soucek, and an Antonio clone as he is so key to how we play.

    Agree re Tah and Grujic, and I'd take Ryan Manning at LWB (can't imagine QPR would want too much for him). Finding another Antonio may not be so easy, so I think this is the least likely signing to happen, although Ex has said that Xande Silva is likely to leave today, so our depth in that position would be even shallower.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    I would take Rico Henry and Manning, both attacking minded left backs who can shift into a back 4 if we need to

    Am I right in that we can purchase players from the championship up to the 16th October as the domestic window is extended? Or have I misinterpreted it?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    last day to justify the Diangana sale =)
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited October 2020
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    I would take Rico Henry and Manning, both attacking minded left backs who can shift into a back 4 if we need to

    Am I right in that we can purchase players from the championship up to the 16th October as the domestic window is extended? Or have I misinterpreted it?

    No, that is right. So Manning or Henry could join up until the 16th. Today is for players from foreign leagues and PL to PL transfers.

    And I've just realised that means another Transfer Deadline Day in 11 days time...


  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I don’t think it is now feasible now for us to do any perm signings at all which involve a fee.

    So if anything it’ll be loans only
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    I don’t think it is now feasible now for us to do any perm signings at all which involve a fee.

    So if anything it’ll be loans only

    Quite possibly. But then Sullivan will have some explaining to do as to what happened to the £30m we supposedly had for Tarkowski, particularly, as Yeold says, we were told Diangana was sold to strengthen the defence.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    We may never end up knowing where the Grady money went

    A bit like when we never got to find out where the £18m Rio money went
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I think the money went on two Haller instalments and Coufal at best we might get a couple of loans in now we have too many players on massive money not making the first eleven Anderson/Haller/Yarmo/Wilshere/Lanzini that half a million a week there :-(
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited October 2020
    Ex's update so far:


    Tah the No1 target but a deal is not close

    Cullen to Anderlecht is on

    Portuguese departures (Silva and Cardoso I assume)

    Potential midfield and forward deals but again, nothing close.


    Bit concerning that the window has been open for over two months and with 12 hours left we're still not close to bringing in a centre back.

    Also concerning that in a window that we needed to strengthen the squad from where it was in July we've brought in one player and will have let go seven players if the above happens.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Funny isn’t it that our most relied upon current back 6 (not including Diop as he didn’t play v Leicester and wolves), including the keeper cost under £40m in total.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    That's good business.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Does our bench cost more than our starting 11?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Yep.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Jacob Steinberg reporting that a loan deal for Tah is unlikely and that we'll need to pay £30m to get him.

    #welcomedawson
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Everton are going some aren’t they? They have now also signed ben Godfrey

    That is in spite of still carrying the significant cost of the likes of schnerderlain, bolasi, tosun and Walcott on their books
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    They still need a keeper though.....
  • alderzalderz
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Jacob Steinberg reporting that a loan deal for Tah is unlikely and that we'll need to pay £30m to get him.

    #welcomedawson

    We bid that for Tarkowski, so Sully can afford that no problemo 🙃
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    We probably offered them £3m up front with a promise to pay the rest later
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Standard reporting that there'll be no business today and we'll use the EFL window to get a couple from the Championship.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    We were never going to do anything today (in terms of incomings). Today is for grown ups.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited October 2020
    alderz said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    Jacob Steinberg reporting that a loan deal for Tah is unlikely and that we'll need to pay £30m to get him.

    #welcomedawson

    We bid that for Tarkowski, so Sully can afford that no problemo 🙃
    And this is the dilemma that Sullivan now faces. He was giving it the big 'un to Jim White on Talksport saying that there was money available when he was getting slated for not having any money, and will now get slated if he doesn't spend that money.

    Ah well, it's his bed.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    To say news is quiet is a bit of an understatement......
  • alderzalderz
    I mean, I'd rather we didn't sign anyone than sign someone that isn't good enough just for the sake of spending.

    And I like the model of picking up players from the Championship. When you take one or two and put them among Premier League players they tend to do an awful lot better than if a team get promoted.

    My worry though, is that relying on the Championship window means that we would be relying on Championship clubs having pre-emptively done their business if they were buying replacements from abroad, or for them to be picking up Premier League replacements.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    In a weird way I'm looking forward to the day we sign Dawson. Sullivan will know the fan-base will be fuming and will be ready to pin it on Moyes by releasing a statement that 'the manager wanted an experienced, British defender.' He's already publicly stated that he has offered random (i.e. cheap) players to Moyes who have been turned down, so he's already laying the foundations of his defence.
  • HamstewHamstew
    Our board are a disgrace imo. Fair enough don't buy for the sake of it but do not sell for the sake of it either. To me it just looks like they are lying again. No intention of using the Grady money. Just used it to pay off the Haller payments. That may or may not be the case but they can't be surprised that people would assume that after the rubbish they've come out with.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    When we go fishing for championship players after today it won’t be the star turns of the likes of Matty cash who we’ll be after. That’s the problem
  • alderzalderz


    Queen of the South make a proper Nortey signing.

    (Still my favourite name in football)
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    When we go fishing for championship players after today it won’t be the star turns of the likes of Matty cash who we’ll be after. That’s the problem

    And they'll cost more because the selling club will know the buying club has no other option.
  • HamstewHamstew
    It's funny because everything seems to point to the fact that we need CBs. But for me in this new system we have some cover. Unfortunately I think we are a Bowen, Antonio, Rice and even Fornals or Arthur injury away from being in trouble. Those other players we have on the bench are just not up to it.
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