Home to Spurs - Saturday 23rd November 12.30pm

puddleglumhammers

The problem is our width. Anderson takes no risks, doesn't dribble like last year. Yarmolenko is utterly overrated and a one trick pony. Cut in left, cut in on left. We need Diangana back and one more genuine wide player soon to give Haller some crosses.. In Lanzini's absence Anderson could play central, not Fornals.
Central midfield is OK, in comparison, with Rice, Noble, Snodgrass and even Sanchez. But without width and guile and some pace we will never progress.

SuzanneClaret

Hamstew said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but did anyone see what the media team posted then deleted from the twitter account the other day :doh:

Yep. :doh:

whupathman

Losing to spuds

alderz

SuzanneClaret said:

Hamstew said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but did anyone see what the media team posted then deleted from the twitter account the other day :doh:

Yep. :doh:

What was it?

SuzanneClaret

A tweet ald, a video by the club of all Jose’s loses. They ended it by saying ‘see you Saturday’

alderz

Brilliant

Hammerwombat

Back in wombat’s west wing, trying to think of something good to say.

First 20, even Stevens.
Middle 40, we were not even playing on the same pitch.
Last 30, we played some great football.
It wasn’t the disaster at looked just after half time, but it was no party.
For the first time I am calling Pelle out. I’m not sure he’s up for the fight.
I came away from the game really disliking Spurs. Nasty childish spoilt brats. HK worst of them all, I know he’s a great striker but I cannot bear that sort of stuff. It’s like Citeh but without the style and class. And most of the spuds must like our pitch as they enjoy a comfortable lay down on it.
I will not say any more about them, as we lost and it’s our own fault. But where on earth do we go from here. We could have lost that 0-5 or nicked a 3-3.
My ghast has been flabbered.
Good day out though as always. Coyi

heathrowhammer

I felt spurs controlled the game without really coming out of 3rd gear.
The ref gave 50-50 decisions their way.
Their players really knew how to wind our players/fans up. We all fell for that!!!
Our 2 goals was a case if them taking the foot of the gas imo
Also felt sorry for Roberto, our fans cheering everytime he saved. Its not nice, and demoralizing for him. It's not helping the cause.

baracks_a_hammer

Chelsea next, then wolves and arsenal. Very worrying - where is our next point coming from let alone a win?

heathrowhammer

Yes, very tough games coming up.
But these are challenges players should up for.
It's why we wanted to be in the premiership (the promise land)
The confidence is shot atm. It's the coaching management's job to get the mojo back.
Get them smiling,motivated,determined,single minded.
But unfortunately I dont think they have the ability to do this.

Pearces_Left_Foot

Until fabianski is back I don’t see the confidence improving, especially as Pellegrini keeps using the same tactics

heathrowhammer

Yes, agree tactics are 1 dimentional. 1 trick pony. We are too predictable, we have been sussed out by the others.

OldCastleSwift

We have a trick?

BubblesNeverDies

A bit more effort and determination as demonstrated by Antonio would help. Shearer
on MOTD pointed out the lack of effort shown by Haller among others.
The big money signings look as if their minds are on their next move.

Cuz1

Perform like that and there won’t be a next move

Yeoldhammer

The problem is there will be a next move. they have shown they are capable. It only takes a 20m offer to come in, the player does a Payet / Arnie and they go.

Fortuneseeker

https://www.westhamtillidie.com/posts/2019/11/24/clapped-out

Just someones views to debate. :ok:

Lukerz

Yeoldhammer said:

The problem is there will be a next move. they have shown they are capable. It only takes a 20m offer to come in, the player does a Payet / Arnie and they go.

Even Rice & Anderson, Diop too, some of our better players last season.

Nobody is going to be spending significant money on them.

Hamstew

Few care that's the bottom line. The board are a disease on this club. Everything has been ruined and I've never felt so far from the club. Even when we win and are playing well I can't shake the stadium out of my head. I keep trying to tell myself otherwise but its grim. Why couldn't they have just left us at the Boleyn. We were pants most of the time but at least we had roots, history and soul.

alderz

Ham I agree.

Every time things go wrong I look at the gap around the pitch, the empty seats, and I just despair

baracks_a_hammer

Ham

The board’s track record says it all

All those years in football (them and Brady). What have they achieved? Birmingham won a trophy only after they left. Other than that, one other cup final. I’m a quartet of a century of ownership.

Bazshuayi

OldCastleSwift said:

We have a trick?

We have a pony :hmm:

imagelost

Little donkey

baracks_a_hammer

Bazshuayi said:

OldCastleSwift said:

We have a trick?

We have a pony :hmm:

We ARE pony

Bazshuayi

Hamstew said:

Few care that's the bottom line. The board are a disease on this club. Everything has been ruined and I've never felt so far from the club. Even when we win and are playing well I can't shake the stadium out of my head. I keep trying to tell myself otherwise but its grim. Why couldn't they have just left us at the Boleyn. We were pants most of the time but at least we had roots, history and soul.

Perhaps the stadium will feel like home for future generations? Those too young to remember? I've not been in England for years so only equate us live with the old place. Maybe I'm lucky its detached from me mentally.

Huttonhammer

Truth is the board are more than happy with the current situation in my view.
They have always known that they never wanted West Ham to compete with the top clubs but they knew the income they could get from running a club like West Ham.
West Ham has a fantastic supporter base but those supporters on the whole have never had much success and they knew that whatever they did the support would stay with the club.
The directors have set the club up so that they get a good income from the tv money etc and selling our ground in my view was their main aim to boost their investment returns.
They make good sound bites about what they could do but they really never will spend any amount that could interrupt their nice cash flow.
The players at the club know there is no desire for the club to go places so they themselves stop trying. Very few players who play for West Ham show the desire of players at other clubs and they get a very easy ride from the managers and our board.
If I owned West Ham and I had to sit down and watch my club embarrass me and the fans week in week out I would call the manager and team in and give them an ultimatum . Start doing the job you are well paid to do properly or I will get you out of this club.
Our directors though are happy with the way things are so don’t really care.
If they did they would not let this shambles of a side shame us all week after week.

Lukerz

The owners seem to have a habit of ignoring the most important areas of the club.

Defence, midfield &, most importantly, manager.

These three areas are where most of our budget should go, then you try & build the front areas with a couple of additions.

When the time comes that they make a change in manager, they browse the market for the best available manager. They don’t say ‘let’s go & get ‘x’, because he is the man for us, & we’ll pay the club the compensation to get him.

Rafa is the best manager who would realistically come to us. But he will need to be bought out of his China contract. He will end up at Arsenal if we wait, which we will do.

The owners always seem happy for this club to sleep walk to nowhere.

Why they couldn’t have been happy for that at the BG, well that is the mystery.

Yeoldhammer

Lukerz said:

Yeoldhammer said:

The problem is there will be a next move. they have shown they are capable. It only takes a 20m offer to come in, the player does a Payet / Arnie and they go.

Even Rice & Anderson, Diop too, some of our better players last season.

Nobody is going to be spending significant money on them.

I think teams will bid considerable for them but like when we sold Payet and Arnie, half the value of what we probably wanted.

Rice touted at 80m so probably 40m ?
Diop touted 60m, probably 30m ?
Anderson a bit more difficult because we brought him for 40m and i cant see anyone paying what we brought him for.

baracks_a_hammer

We wouldn’t get our money back on anderson right now

Huttonhammer

Very few players that join this club ever go up in value. They just seem to lose their capability to play football at a good level week in week out and get injured.
As mentioned before they start showing a complete lack of desire and passion which is a culture running through this club.
Our owners do not want us competing with the top clubs to improve they are only worried in making sure we are better than three other sides each season. There is a massive difference in the investment required to do either of those things .