Aston Villa A Mon 16th Sept 8pm. Will Anderson turn the Heaton Villa?

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  • Giant_HammerGiant_Hammer
    I hate Dean with a passion. :angry:
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    The linesman see it and just ignored it. What is the point of VAR if it can't do anything about that decision?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Mike Dean making it all about him, shock. Really, really poor decision, and he gave himself no time.

    Masuaku has dived in though, he has made the ref make a decision. Didn't need to go in like that.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    So dumb that VAR can’t look at it because it’s a second yellow rather than a straight red. It’s still culminates in a dismissal so the theory should be the same.

    It feels like the rules they’ve set up on what they can and can’t check are so arbitrary.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Trouble is, Suze, even if Taylor had been screaming 'No, you mug!' like the rest of us, VAR couldn't get involved.
  • HamstewHamstew
    Incredible how we now have VAR but big decisions are still going against us.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited September 2019
    True day :weep:
  • alderzalderz
    On BBC live text the pundits are all saying it was a definite booking. My stream was down and I’ve not seen it yet
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    What is the point of VAR? It never seems to be used for the things it actually should be used for and there are still stupid mistakes being made in every game it seems.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    alderz said:

    On BBC live text the pundits are all saying it was a definite booking. My stream was down and I’ve not seen it yet

    He didn’t touch him.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    So dumb that VAR can’t look at it because it’s a second yellow rather than a straight red. It’s still culminates in a dismissal so the theory should be the same.

    It feels like the rules they’ve set up on what they can and can’t check are so arbitrary.

    They are arbitrary. It's decided certain decisions can be looked at. Others can't.

    I suppose it could be argued that all yellow cards should be reviewed by VAR, but that would be extending the scope of re-refereeing quite a lot.
  • DeanscaleshammerDeanscaleshammer
    :pray:
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    And not really workable
  • alderzalderz
    The commentator on sky has said Nakamba’s first name every single time he’s touched the ball and it’s getting annoying
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Ming's takes out Haller with an swinging arm.

  • stevesteve
    Hate Mike dean more then Man u or Liverpool :angry:
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2019
    alderz said:

    The commentator on sky has said Nakamba’s first name every single time he’s touched the ball and it’s getting annoying

    They've all got their puns lined up, just waiting to use them.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    MrsGrey said:

    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    So dumb that VAR can’t look at it because it’s a second yellow rather than a straight red. It’s still culminates in a dismissal so the theory should be the same.

    It feels like the rules they’ve set up on what they can and can’t check are so arbitrary.

    They are arbitrary. It's decided certain decisions can be looked at. Others can't.

    I suppose it could be argued that all yellow cards should be reviewed by VAR, but that would be extending the scope of re-refereeing quite a lot.
    I didn’t suggest that. I suggested reviewing second yellow cards, as they result in a dismissal the same as a straight red.
  • alderzalderz
    But if the second was right and the first wasn’t then won’t people want to review the first yellow?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    MrsGrey said:

    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    So dumb that VAR can’t look at it because it’s a second yellow rather than a straight red. It’s still culminates in a dismissal so the theory should be the same.

    It feels like the rules they’ve set up on what they can and can’t check are so arbitrary.

    They are arbitrary. It's decided certain decisions can be looked at. Others can't.

    I suppose it could be argued that all yellow cards should be reviewed by VAR, but that would be extending the scope of re-refereeing quite a lot.
    I didn’t suggest that. I suggested reviewing second yellow cards, as they result in a dismissal the same as a straight red.
    I know. But yellow card decisions are decisions about whether or not a foul deserves a yellow. 1st or second, there's no difference qualitatively, or in criteria you use to judge it.

    So really, I think you have to review none or all, to be fair to all players.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Maybe if there’s a sending off they review both yellows to make sure the player has done enough warrant a red, then.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Or refs could just do their jobs properly
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Like what I have to
  • DeanscaleshammerDeanscaleshammer
    Keep a clean sheet :pray:
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2019
    But after 5 yellows, you miss a game. What if one or two were not right?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Jorderz

    Trouble with that is

    a) you end up re-reffing the game

    b) it slows the game down further, which no one wants
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    3 minutes :pray:
  • stevesteve
    :phew:
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Well I thought that was a bit painful.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited September 2019
    Shame

    Not overly fussed with a point

    We didn’t show enough before the red which was disappointing

    All those attacking players & none of them had a decent game

    Game passed us by
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