Farcical situation we find ourselves in. Nearly everyone here said we needed 2 CF, as we couldn't afford to rely on Sakho or AC being fit and willing to play. So, what happens? We bring in Hernandez, and that's it. Sakho supposedly was over his back problems after his op, but what about his head problems?
Ridiculously no-one at the club managed to discover at any stage over the summer that Sakho was unhappy enough here to do an Odemwingie, so even if we don't give in to his demands for a move at this late stage, we're still down a CF as there's little chance we'll get any football out of him given his previous behaviour and his latest stunt.
So effectively we're down to Hernandez, Carroll (who isn't fit and even when he comes back from this injury we know the next one is just round the corner), and Martinez who hasn't even made the bench for a league game this season. I know we only start with 1 up front, but most games the 1 works so hard that he gets subbed so in most games at least 2 CF get game time, and we've only got one fit, senior striker.
It's all well and good the club coming out and saying Sakho is an integral part of our plans, if he doesn't want to play, then he won't. It beggars belief that our club is so stupid to find ourselves in this situation. He tried to get a move away last summer, it didn't happen, and we hardly got a game out of him all season. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. DS should be feeling pretty damn ashamed of himself. Absolutely ridiculous
Maybe we should rename this thread 'The Final Meltdown'.
Ex has said that there'll be no business tonight. Suggests that players were offered to West Ham but Slav didn't want any of them. Carvalho was the one he wanted but the club wouldn't meet Sporting's valuation.
Not sure what happened to one out, one in policy. Since Slav said that we've seen Feghouli and Snodgrass shipped out and we haven't replaced either ;hmm
I believe the board put in big bids on players making sure they don't quite meet the club's valuation. This way fans thing we have tried with a big transfer but in reality they had no intention of signing them. That's my theory.
Hang on, thorn - who said it was 4-6 weeks before he'd be fit? The club?
There was a mention on here by a poster, but elsewhere I read he was not injured. When I asked if anyone had a link/source to the 4-6 wk story, nobody came up with anything.
Are you sure you (or AN Other) aren't just making things up?
I've been saying for ages to get rid of Sakho, never mind the fact he's injured more than Carroll, his head has not been with the club for a long time IMO. If someone, particularly in a foreign league is willing to pay circa £9m for him when his contract ends after this season - bite their hand off. Ideally scramble to grab someone else in on loan, but even if we can't - get shut. I really believe even if we force him to stay he will put on a massive huff, put in half effort performances, mysteriously be injured, or just not turn up. Please take the money! And if it gives us the extra £5m needed to bring in Carvalho, all the better.
You could argue we're already in the relegation mire.
But yeah, if we were to lose Hernandez to injury who do we play up front? I'm not convinced Ayew's a striker. In fact, based on this season so far, I'm not even convinced he's a footballer.
If we play Antonio there, who plays right wing? Same with Arnie on the left. We have left ourselves very short in terms of numbers and I do feel like we've been short changed by the people in charge.
Let's face it with the complete shambles that has been the start of our season and players like Sakho and Snodgrass making so much noise about not wanting to be at the club. Surely Carvalho would never have come to West Ham. It is difficult to see how things can be improved now. I hope those in charge have some sort of plan has anyone any ideas?
Not a good day so far. Sakho is still here and Carvalho is not coming. To top it all U23s have lost 7-2 to Tottenham. What next? Are we going to sign Carlton Cole, Benni McCarthy and Bobby Zamora. I gather they are available for a modest price.
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Ridiculously no-one at the club managed to discover at any stage over the summer that Sakho was unhappy enough here to do an Odemwingie, so even if we don't give in to his demands for a move at this late stage, we're still down a CF as there's little chance we'll get any football out of him given his previous behaviour and his latest stunt.
So effectively we're down to Hernandez, Carroll (who isn't fit and even when he comes back from this injury we know the next one is just round the corner), and Martinez who hasn't even made the bench for a league game this season. I know we only start with 1 up front, but most games the 1 works so hard that he gets subbed so in most games at least 2 CF get game time, and we've only got one fit, senior striker.
It's all well and good the club coming out and saying Sakho is an integral part of our plans, if he doesn't want to play, then he won't. It beggars belief that our club is so stupid to find ourselves in this situation. He tried to get a move away last summer, it didn't happen, and we hardly got a game out of him all season. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. DS should be feeling pretty damn ashamed of himself. Absolutely ridiculous
Unless DS is like this... ;lol
Ex has said that there'll be no business tonight. Suggests that players were offered to West Ham but Slav didn't want any of them. Carvalho was the one he wanted but the club wouldn't meet Sporting's valuation.
Not sure what happened to one out, one in policy. Since Slav said that we've seen Feghouli and Snodgrass shipped out and we haven't replaced either ;hmm
;sofa ;sofa ;sofa
There was a mention on here by a poster, but elsewhere I read he was not injured. When I asked if anyone had a link/source to the 4-6 wk story, nobody came up with anything.
Are you sure you (or AN Other) aren't just making things up?
https://thisisfutbol.com/2017/08/blogs/west-ham-pull-out-of-william-carvalho-move/?utm_source=snack_ticker&utm_medium=ticker&utm_campaign=OO_ticker_tracking
His club asked £35.
West Ham offered £35m.
How is that being 'cheap'?
Sporting Lisbon subsequently upped the price. Whether or not WH was right or wrong to refuse to be messed around is a matter for debate.
But don't ignore the fact that they went straight in with an offer to match the asking price.
#revisionisthistory
But yeah, if we were to lose Hernandez to injury who do we play up front? I'm not convinced Ayew's a striker. In fact, based on this season so far, I'm not even convinced he's a footballer.
If we play Antonio there, who plays right wing? Same with Arnie on the left. We have left ourselves very short in terms of numbers and I do feel like we've been short changed by the people in charge.
It meant there wasn't enough urgency in other deals and we put all our eggs in the carvalho basket (why do we do this every year)
The squad is low in confidence and low in numbers
Surely Carvalho would never have come to West Ham.
It is difficult to see how things can be improved now.
I hope those in charge have some sort of plan has anyone any ideas?
So nothing about him being injured, just a concern about lack of pre-season and regular training, so when would he be match fit.
thorn take note! ;wink