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  • But i thought the new stadium would attract top players? ;hmm

    £ and success = top players.

    Unfortunately £ usually = success.

    If you don't have the first, the second two are pipe dreams.

    Nice stadium though...
  • 2 games into the season and you'd think we are going to get relegated

  • But i thought the new stadium would attract top players? ;hmm

    £ and success = top players.

    Unfortunately £ usually = success.

    If you don't have the first, the second two are pipe dreams.

    Nice stadium though...
    Top quality popcorn ;ok
  • But i thought the new stadium would attract top players? ;hmm

    £ and success = top players.

    Unfortunately £ usually = success.

    If you don't have the first, the second two are pipe dreams.

    Nice stadium though...
    Top quality popcorn ;ok
  • Well that was poor!!!
    Why did we play in 1st gear first half???
    Unfortunately we could not change gear after that.
    Slaven's tactics were wrong today.
    Valencia is pants. Tore not much better.
    On a positive note Fletcher & Burke are our future.
    Hopefully we perform better on sunday
    coyi
  • Valencia should not be in the side .

    Why is he being picked !!

    Utter rubbish
  • Yea Slav got it wrong

    At least Slav saw that Antonio wasn't a RB when he had a shocker and hopefully he'll look at this game and see Fletcher can be trusted whereas Valencia can't

    Team lacked balance with 2 inverted wingers and an already overcrowded midfield

    Needed a proper left footed left back who could've overlapped Antonio but it was all too narrow

    So much quality to come back so I'm not worried but im so disappointed but got to try and move on
  • Im dissapointed but odds of us gettin to the final were very slim. Would rather do well in the league and domestic cups. coyi
  • Yea Slav got it wrong

    At least Slav saw that Antonio wasn't a RB when he had a shocker and hopefully he'll look at this game and see Fletcher can be trusted whereas Valencia can't

    Team lacked balance with 2 inverted wingers and an already overcrowded midfield

    Needed a proper left footed left back who could've overlapped Antonio but it was all too narrow

    So much quality to come back so I'm not worried but im so disappointed but got to try and move on
  • edited August 2016

    2 games into the season and you'd think we are going to get relegated

    Well tbf we do need another 12 wins still
  • Come on then defend that SB got it wrong board have bought rubbish this summer utter rubbish

    Yeah I'll go against that.....

    I'll judge after at least 4-6 weeks, probably longer.

    Why would Payet seriously want to be here?

    Because hopefully he can look at the bigger picture, chances are we'd of knackered him playing 3 times a weeks anyway.
  • 2 games into the season and you'd think we are going to get relegated

    ;doh

    Well tbf we do need another 12 wins still
    Should we bother....... can we not just retire now so we have a whole year to recruit the right types of players for our next season in the championship

  • Fletcher and Calleri should have scored. Calleri looks as though he is continuing his Olympic form of finding nice positions but couldn't hit a barn door.

    Byram and Burke both too casual then again so was the rest of the team. Tore and Antonio tried to take on a man and failed every time.

    Until about 10 minutes to ago people were strolling all over the field. No running, no creating space. Fletcher only one who looked like he had any sort of forward vision.

    All in all players bottled it and not really surprised. West Ham are just England in disguise XD can't do it when it matters most.
  • Fail to prepare. Prepare to fail.

    The board talked the talk (as usual) about signing a top striker and yet we're still relying on players like Valencia.

    Don't disagree, but while their continued mouthing off is annoying, they set the wrong expectations with fans. Sakho and Carroll they can't be held responsible for and for some reason 2-3 top players didn't fancy us.
  • edited August 2016
    Double !
  • If the owners have aspirations of European football year in year they should be telling the Manager to put out the strongest team possible and investing in a full strength squad to enable the manager to put out his strongest squad in all competitions - not a barely adequate one.

    I thought he had put out his strongest line up/squad...............

    Carroll, Ayew, Cresswell - long term injuries

    Feghouli, Payet, Lanzini, Noble - All knocks or not yet fit.

    Artur - not available until group stages

    Perhaps I'm missing something

    ;puzzled

    If that is our strongest squad we are in for a big loss in our next game.

    TBH I have now lost patience with Carroll, taking up a berth and money that could be better used, Valencia? why have we still got him - another one, some one will have to bite the bullet sooner rather than later and take the loss, letting both go on free's.
    Well who else is there? Or have I missed some players out?

    We've still got Valencia because even though we keep playing him in the hope he'll do something, his value is actually dropping.

    Perhaps we should take a look at the selfish and terrible attitude of Sakho, who possibly has caused a lot of this, unfit, won't travel, made up injuries, toys of the pram and then doesn't make the medical, 15-16, down the pan.
  • We didn't start playing in this tie until the 135th minute.
  • edited August 2016
    Wow Twitter in meltdown people hating the stadium blaming the stadium for the loss fights breaking out all over the ground other, now the laughing stock of England. it's not looking to rosey atm wouldn't be surprised if zaza backed out now, but wouldn't it just be typical West Ham and go and beat man city on Sunday.
  • Why feel sorry for G&S?

    They've had all summer to sign a first choice striker, after telling us all that was the main priority.

    They've signed:

    A back up LB
    A back up CM
    A back up CM
    A back up winger x2
    A winger
    A back up striker
    A kid striker x2
    A kid winger

    6 days to go to.

    the LB wasn't their fault, who saw Cresswell's injury coming?

    While tonight is disappointing, very disappointing, then they've backed the Manager, what else can they do, they're his signings because he has final say.
  • Wow Twitter in meltdown people hating the stadium blaming the stadium for the loss fights breaking out all over the ground other, now the laughing stock of England. it's not looking to rosey atm wouldn't be surprised if zaza backed out now, but wouldn't it just be typical West Ham and go and beat man city on Sunday.

    Storm in a ;tea

    ;biggrin
  • Wow Twitter in meltdown people hating the stadium blaming the stadium for the loss fights breaking out all over the ground other, now the laughing stock of England. it's not looking to rosey atm wouldn't be surprised if zaza backed out now, but wouldn't it just be typical West Ham and go and beat man city on Sunday.

    I have my doubts about Zaza coming now. The club were '75%' confident earlier, and we're expecting an answer within 48 hours.

    I'd be amazed if he agreed to join, TBH
  • edited August 2016
    I don't have a problem with Calleri. He'll score some goals. Gets into good positions, chances come his way. Just needs that bit of luck/confidence to bury one.

    The issue is we've just stuck him right in at the deep end in a make or break knock-out game, and relied on him to get us through. That's not fair on him. Personally wouldn't have subbed him.

    Just so disappointed with the intensity of the performance, especially first half, because it's been a theme in all three of our opening games. We got away with it v Bournemouth but we could easily be sitting here come Monday with 1 point from 3 league games and out of Europe. As it is we nabbed the three points so we will be able to avoid that level of negativity.

    The front three tonight didn't deliver, and that is what we needed to happen. Anybody from Antonio, Tore, Calleri, Fletcher or Valencia needed to grab the game by the scruff. The defence weren't tested and the midfield did what they did. But with no link between the middle three and front three, and no stand-out performance from the attacking lads, we had no chance and in the end relied on Sam style desperation footie, praying for a break.

    I just hope this lack of intensity is not due to the first XI being no better than last season. Players get complacent and sloppy mentally. They need quality, first XI players coming in to keep them on their toes, not squad members.
  • What I don't get is the hypocrisy of the criticism

    G&S should've brought in a striker thats better than the ones we got......but they wasted too much time on strikers that are...wait for it....better than what we got

    G&S should've stumped up the cash and overspend to get deals over the line....but when they do players reject us....and the one we get is "overpriced"

    G&S haven't given us a big enough squad.....but they've spent too much on squad depth players

    G&S are all talk......even when clubs have confirmed our bids and speaking to these top calibre players

    G&S need to get rid of some of the fringe players.....but get abused when they get rid of our 4th choice CB ..... and how they should be at fault because sakho failed a medical
  • Antonio, Tore, Calleri, Fletcher and Valencia.

    Had it not been for injuries that could have read Feghouli, Payet, Carroll, Ayew and Lanzini.
  • edited August 2016
    Well that was really rather appalling.

    The problem with my really good view was that I had a really good view.
  • Feel one of the biggest misses of tonight was no Masuaka

    I really like Burke and think while he got caught out think the brunt of the blame should fall on byram who ran for too long and then made a poor cross field ball, but he got in some good positions on the left but had to cut back and slow the game down, whereas Masuaka could've put a lot of prssure on their back line and could've got to th byline which we didn't do all game

    With a right footed left winger in Antonio we needed a overlapping full back to add balance and missed that and had cresswell or Masuaka played think the whole team would've clicked better
  • pity nobody was standing in front of you Suze
  • Champo - do you not feel slightly underwhelmed by our business?

    I do.

    Maybe I'm wrong or/and I expected too much? Maybe?

    But after last season, the football we played, the success, the new stadium, Europe...

    I just felt we'd really have a go in this market and I just don't feel we have.

    And what we saw tonight was a result of that. Everybody gets injuries.
  • pity nobody was standing in front of you Suze

    Truedat
  • What I don't get is the hypocrisy of the criticism

    G&S should've brought in a striker thats better than the ones we got......but they wasted too much time on strikers that are...wait for it....better than what we got

    G&S should've stumped up the cash and overspend to get deals over the line....but when they do players reject us....and the one we get is "overpriced"

    G&S haven't given us a big enough squad.....but they've spent too much on squad depth players

    G&S are all talk......even when clubs have confirmed our bids and speaking to these top calibre players

    G&S need to get rid of some of the fringe players.....but get abused when they get rid of our 4th choice CB ..... and how they should be at fault because sakho failed a medical

    Spot on IMO ;ok
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