West Ham United v AFC Sunderland. Saturday 24th January, 12.30pm on TNT.

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  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    @Lukerz, Where are those six wins coming from, just asking 👍?
  • stevesteve
    I just ment we will need a win against someone who we don't expect to beat .Chelsea's would be great to keep our little run going
  • stevesteve
    Burnley,Bournemouth ,Wolves.Everton ..Then pick two out of Fulham,Brentford ,Palace .Big ask that's why we need to win one or two against the others we play
  • stevesteve
    Sorry Lukerz .Spoke for you =)
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    Keep playing as we are and we have a chance.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 25
    Fortuneseeker said:

    @Lukerz, Where are those six wins coming from, just asking 👍?

    It doesn’t matter, we may fancy our chances at Burnley but lose that & then beat Man Utd, you usually require 10/11 wins to stay up in a season with a handful of draws taking you to around 40 points

    I think for us to have any chance of survival we need to win six games so that is where our focus needs to be
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    Jonty Colman
    BBC Sport journalist
    Published
    27 November 2025

    Premier League teams finishing on 36 or more points in each of the last nine seasons were guaranteed safety from relegation.

    In the 20-team Premier League era, starting from the 1995-96 season, the average number of points needed for survival, or the number of points the 18th place team finished plus one, is 35.53 - rounded up to 36 points.

    No team in the last nine campaigns have earned 36 points and been relegated.

    In the 30 Premier League seasons that have had 38 games a season for each club, 36 points would have ensured survival 60% of the time.

    This season is expected to be a familiar tale. After 21 rounds of games, 18th is currently on track to finish on 25 points, meaning just 26 points would ensure survival.

    That rate of survival increases to 80% for 38 points, 90% for 40 points and 100% for 43 or more points.

    West Ham hold the record for the team relegated with the most points in the 20-team era. In the 2002-03 season, the Hammers picked up 42 points but were still relegated.

    The safety thresholds for last two seasons have been significantly lower due to newly-promoted teams struggling in the Premier League. The last two seasons have seen 26 and 27 points be enough to seal safety respectively.

    Only once prior to the 2023-24 season has a total below 30 points been enough to seal survival.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 25
    23 points from our final 15 then

    Let’s do this

    To be fair, 20 points from 15 probably does it & that’s a pretty average return
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    We have 20 points from 23 games so far, them are the facts?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited January 25
    And? We have 2 wins from 2 games.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    And? we are hoping to get the same number of points from eight less games! 🤷‍♂️
  • alderzalderz
    Fortuneseeker said:

    And? we are hoping to get the same number of points from eight less games! 🤷‍♂️

    Might as well pack up and go home, I guess.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    @alderz, Come back to me in May & I will be highly delighted to be proved wrong 🤞🙏 👍.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    The way I see it we need six wins from fifteen games and the way we are currently playing, I think that is doable, if we were still playing the way we were earlier in the season, I would have considered it very unlikely.……that being said, if we were still playing that way, we would probably currently have no more than fourteen or fifteen points so……
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    The current form table has us 13th over the last 6 games and 16th over the last 10. So I don*t think it is so clear cut for us to be relegated. Palace and even Spurs could still get dragged into it although I believe that Spurs will (unfortunately) be safe.
    We have been building a gap between us and the bottom two and I reckon that they are down and out, but I think four more wins and the odd draw should do the trick.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited January 27
    We just look so much better with Taty and Pablo in the starting line up - plus Soucek and Fernandes as the central midfield pairing
  • alderzalderz
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Thanks Alderz. I love that stuff!
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Great! Now Chelsea will know how we play. 😂
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    IronHerb said:

    Great! Now Chelsea will know how we play. 😂

    Tbh that was my reaction, but I suspect Chelsea's own analysts will have noticed the same sort of thing.
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