One more year than Carroll is gone anyway I think his contract is up end of this season. a good 100k off the wage bill when that happens, shame we couldn't flog him previously.
Assuming they are injured, this would be the first time where it won’t affect us too much. They’re not that important (first team wise) to us anymore. It shows that we’ve moved forward.
For Carroll, it isn't a new injury, it is the same issue he has been having, which was clearly not dealt with successfully.
Whether that's because they had to wait to see how he responded before deciding on surgery, or whether the last lot of medicos missed it, we may never know.
However, the fact that the new quack has decided he needs minor surgery to strengthen the ankle does make you wonder why the last one didn't.
I notice Pellegrini said we'd lost two players in key positions rather than two key players.
Bottom line is both we're likely to be on the bench anyway. Ogbonna was out best CB last season and we're not going to bench our £22m new signing.
Carroll would be 3rd choice centre forward behind Arnie and Yarmo, and that's assuming we don't sign anyone else.
As Champo says, I don't see this a blow, particularly. The only way it could hurt us is if we were banking on getting some money for them later this month.
Two years ago, losing Carroll, Reid and Lanzini would have seriously hurt us. With the business we're doing, assuming we get Anderson over the line, the impact feels considerably less.
We’ve had many quacks trying various things to put AC on the mend and none of them have managed to achieve it without him breaking down relatively quickly after. If this latest one manages to achieve it, frankly he should be knighted
Sorry guys I know I’m going to get some heat for this but I’ve heard many times that Carroll keeps getting injured when in fact he alledgedly has a drug problem. I do find it strange that he and Winston suddenly come back and they both at this time suddenly realise they need surgery/are injured. When players have been injured during the off season they are usually told to stick around and have ops or continue rehabilitation. How is it suddenly a surprise. They’d have been running and doing drills for a while.
It’s just weird to me that this come to light now. Supposedly players that fail tests (and it must happen) at clubs are kept away from the league drug testers etc through pretending injury or through HR channels where they admit to being addicted.
Anyway who knows but it’s too often, timings are strange etc etc
D'you know what Sweepy, I do wonder whether there's anything in that.
Injuries that appear to happen at the same time and both ruled out for three months. I can see why people may have suspicions.
That said, if Carroll does have a persistent problem and his 'injuries' are in fact club-imposed bans/cover-ups, then surely we'd have grounds to terminate his contract and save ourselves £90k a week ;hmm
Injuries that appear to happen at the same time and both ruled out for three months. I can see why people may have suspicions.
They aren't injuries that have happened at the same time. They aren't new injuries. They are pre-existing injuries which require further surgical intervention.
That said, if Carroll does have a persistent problem and his 'injuries' are in fact club-imposed bans/cover-ups, then surely we'd have grounds to terminate his contract and save ourselves £90k a week ;hmm
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Club will release a statement about Andy Carroll and Winston Reid later
No source given. ;hmm
One more year than Carroll is gone anyway I think his contract is up end of this season. a good 100k off the wage bill when that happens, shame we couldn't flog him previously.
Gossip and heresay ;wahoo
So we'll be without Carroll and Reid for three months. Kind of assumed we would be anyway, to be honest.
If it means new players coming in that spend more time on the pitch than in the physio room then I'm ok with it.
#andlikemydreams
At least that rules Reid out from being sold this summer, giving him one last chance.
Whether that's because they had to wait to see how he responded before deciding on surgery, or whether the last lot of medicos missed it, we may never know.
However, the fact that the new quack has decided he needs minor surgery to strengthen the ankle does make you wonder why the last one didn't.
I dont see it anymore as losing 2 key players as this happens so often i almost dont even consider either of them whe i look at our squad
Quicker their contract runs out the better
So normal service resumes.....
Bottom line is both we're likely to be on the bench anyway. Ogbonna was out best CB last season and we're not going to bench our £22m new signing.
Carroll would be 3rd choice centre forward behind Arnie and Yarmo, and that's assuming we don't sign anyone else.
As Champo says, I don't see this a blow, particularly. The only way it could hurt us is if we were banking on getting some money for them later this month.
However, the fact that the new quack has decided he needs minor surgery to strengthen the ankle does make you wonder why the last one didn't.
This perhaps helps answer that.
http://www.whu606.com/discussion/comment/902589/#Comment_902589
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44814703
It probably doesn't help how he spends some of his rehab time! ;whistle
It’s just weird to me that this come to light now. Supposedly players that fail tests (and it must happen) at clubs are kept away from the league drug testers etc through pretending injury or through HR channels where they admit to being addicted.
Anyway who knows but it’s too often, timings are strange etc etc
Injuries that appear to happen at the same time and both ruled out for three months. I can see why people may have suspicions.
That said, if Carroll does have a persistent problem and his 'injuries' are in fact club-imposed bans/cover-ups, then surely we'd have grounds to terminate his contract and save ourselves £90k a week ;hmm
Even if it hasn’t happened here it must happen far more than we are told about it across the game