West Ham vs Stoke City (H) Match Thread 16.04.2018

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  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    or not !
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Stoke last minute free kick :open_mouth:
  • Tomw85Tomw85
    Ref being very quick to give us yellows but stoke gave away about 6 fouls on the edge of their box and nothing given!
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    Hart all at sea for that free kick as well.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited April 2018
    3 disallowed goals

    Full time 1-1 probably should have been 3 points.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I'll settle for that after going behind.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited April 2018
    Pretty poor from us. Have to take the point but all those attackers sat on the bench until 76 mins and then when we go 0-1 down.

    Stoke were awful and will go down thankfully but we had a great chance to seal our status with a win and we just never had enough good attacking players on the pitch to win the game that was there for the taking.

    We can never seem to beat Stoke at home.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    #He scores when he's fit
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Moyes should have used our 3rd sub to get Hart off and Adrian on.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    That AC goal though - lovely.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    Lukerz, we scored 4 tonight. How is that pretty poor? Of these 4 it sounded like only one was kind of clear cut. The first was marginally offside and for the 4th it seems like it should have stood.
    Mind you, i didn't see it. I can only go by what I read.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    It would have been easier for Hart to just put his hands on the ball rather than try and use his leg. He is a disaster.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Lukerz,

    Hopefully it won't be a problem next season.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Wanted 3 points desperately , but at 90 mins 1 down , feel better now.
    Great finish by Andy to rescue the point.
    Luke, while we weren't great by any means can't agree with ur comment that we had deserved to lose, apart from their goal & let's face it Hart did him self little favours Stoke certainly didn't deserve the win...
    Have to settle for a point, could have been far worse...
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Hart for me all game looked nervous is first touch he couldn’t hold a routine catch, glad he’s only a loan send him back now and that’s not just tonight’s game it’s all but one game he’s played for us happy to take a point plus side ac took his goal well
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Great goal by Carroll. Can never understand Moyes’ reluctance to make subs, especially when we had good options on the bench. We were well worth at least a point, though.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    It drives me nuts when I see strikers (ie Arnie in this case) not making any effort to get back onside after an attack breaks down ... how many times do we see the ball come back quickly and the striker is suddenly a liability because of their position.

    That's why our 2nd was offside - it was a sweet strike by Fernandes.

  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    Unhappy with 3 disallowed goals, but I will take that point and have a giggle when stoke are relegated next Saturday.
    Nice one AC. That was worth a few weeks on the treatment table. You are still class, even though you get broken a bit too often.
  • MoojorMoojor
    edited April 2018
    Just read the BBC about the second goal. Anyone remember the West Ham v Man Utd game, where aplayer, standing right in front of Adrian, then takes him out from a corner and they get the goal allowed...

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Oh, and I was not happy with Chicarito blatantly trying to 'fake' for a penalty. Poor.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Moojor,

    It was Bastien the German, it got them a replay which they won at Upton Park. ;angry
  • MoojorMoojor
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Moojor,

    It was Bastien the German, it got them a replay which they won at Upton Park. ;angry

    Cheers Fortune, knew it was in the cup, couldn't remember the name.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Think Chico's should have stood; hard to see how AC was doing anything worse than Shawcross.

    Only player at fault for their goal was Hart. I would have preferred him to choose a different way to let Southgate know he didn't want to go to the World Cup.

    Don't think Stoke were 'abysmal'. They were decent in their recent games, they just don't have enough goals in them.

    We had plenty of attacks, so don't think we lacked attacking players on the pitch.

    If Hart doesn't gift them a goal, we probably win.

    Relieved with the draw after going behind.

    1 point further from Soton, and Stoke need 3 wins, or 2 wins and 2 draws to get past us, even if we don't take another point.

    Not great, but not the disaster it could have been. Hart owes AC a big drink.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Shocking we didnt win that
    Hart is a calamity...one good game then this....GK has to be the #1 priority this summer

    Think the offisde calls were right

    Moyes needed to be proactive with his subs...no surprise when Carroll and hernandez we got a goal and a disallowed goal
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    If Hart makes the England squad IMO it's a slap in the face of other keepers, tonight infront of Southgate he made a real schoolboy error...yet again, his 4th in 18 games that have led to goals..
    Moyes is IMO too conservative with his subs, like already said above, like he had decided that not losing the game was more important than winning...
    At 90 mins u have to say a point gained...
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I think Chico's goal was disallowed for handball by Andy as the ball hit his hand and dropped nicely for Chico BUT I think Oliver should have awarded a penalty for Shawcross holding onto him before Andy got it.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    Grey

    Carroll used his arm in controlling the ball before giving it to Chico. That was why it was disallowed.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    PrestonHammer said:

    It would have been easier for Hart to just put his hands on the ball rather than try and use his leg. He is a disaster.

    That irritated me more than the first mistake. Just jump on it and put your body in the way. That’s what you expect from any keeper, not that pointless swipe of the leg.
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    The Joe Hart/Adrian situation is very interesting. After the Burnley game I didn’t expect to see JH ever turn out for our first team again. I thought he had his chance and chucked it up the road. Then against the Chavs, he plays a blinder. Fair play, he deserved a start tonight. But what is the GK thing at the moment? Are we missing something in training? Is Adrian on a strop? I think the pair of them both have moody possibilities, but as a all rounder, I can see Adrian further up the pecking order than head n shoulders boy. ;hmm
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    MrsGrey said:

    Oh, and I was not happy with Chicarito blatantly trying to 'fake' for a penalty. Poor.

    But Martins-Indi did wrestle AC to the ground before that, so we should have had a penalty for that. Don't know why it wasn't given.

    *mutters 'dustbin for a heart'*


    (And dustbin for Hart...)
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