Hernandez has scored 10 goals in the 28 Premier League starts, if you take out his substitute appearances on average its a goal every 220 minutes.
In his 22 appearances from the bench he's scored 5, one every 51 minutes.
Hernandez came on at half time but didn't get a shot on goal until he scored in the 84th minute. We didn't have an attempt on goal in the second half until Nasri came on and the first shot in 63rd minute was from Arnautovic.
Arnie has scored all his 18 league goals when he's been in the starting XI as a striker, if you ignore the games he played as a winger and his substitute appearances its a goal every 172 minutes.
Lukerz Just noticed the significant improvement after he (Arnie) went off on Saturday
The significant improvement began in the 59th minute when Nasri came on for Noble, not sure whether Perez for Arnie made much difference. Chicharito for Antonio in 45th minute was quite important too.
Lukerz Just noticed the significant improvement after he (Arnie) went off on Saturday
The significant improvement began in the 59th minute when Nasri came on for Noble, not sure whether Perez for Arnie made much difference. Chicharito for Antonio in 45th minute was quite important too.
;wink
Well that significant improvement saw us go 3-1 down and remain 3-1 down until the 75th minute ;hmm
Or there’s the bit where Arnie went off, and 7 mins later we were back in the game.
Trying to put responsibility for a change in fortune on a single element of a complex whole is, imo, pointless. Sorry Lukerz.
The performance of a team is a complex mesh of tactics, personnel, individual strengths/weaknesses, decision making of 22 individuals, team formation, reaction/change of tactics or responsibilities of the opposing players in response to a scoreline, substitution, or decision on game management.
We went 3-1 down because we were pushing for another goal, and Huddersfield took advantage. It can be argued that was because of the shift in tactics, not personnel.
You are trying to find evidence for your theory that
the players are not keen on him playing
but I don't think you can. Not enough to convince me, anyway ;biggrin
It’s not so much a theory that needs evidence, just a musing based on the result after he went off, comments from Zabaleta, Pellegrini, Antonio, Anderson & Noble in the media, his lack of a return to the starting 11 & his form when he has played, plus starting on Saturday, coming off with the score at 1-3 & then the side going on to win 4-3 in his absence. Obviously him being removed does not cause the end outcome, just wondered if anybody else has thought ‘do the players really want him playing after everything’.
Plenty of us have already mentioned Nasri's quality (and its always been pretty obvious hes got it) but until recently he's been injured (on the back of not many games since he came to us). He and Lanzini both lack games and a bit of fitness I'd imagine but they are our make things happen quality ballers alongside Andersen and IMO we need to find a place in the side for all of them. As commented a while back, if we can get a new contract or instigate an extension on Nasri it'll be great business (whether he plays for us or someone comes in for him so we financially gain).He's still got plenty of years left and that time out has surely made him hungry to reestablish himself.
Surely we can get that out on the pitch a bit more as I think the three behind the striker will get the best out of Hernandez. He needs passes in behind the defence to run onto & cut backs.
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Whenever I've seen him play he's looked so comfortable in possession even in difficult/tight areas. He doesn't give the ball away much when dribbling as well as passing. I honestly see him as a much better option than Lanzini. However it's great competition to have both of them and I imagine Nasri's fitness probably isn't amazing (could be wrong here).
Also, it wasn't just the Hernandez assist that was great... it was the way he won the ball just before this goal.
welovethehammers I honestly see him as a much better option than Lanzini
Nasri's record vis a vis Manu speaks for itself. The only possible negative is his attitude although hopefully, given his age, he has mellowed a bit and realises that he could become a fan's favourite with us.
Sorry not having a Manu - Nasri comparison. The guy has been out for donkeys with a very serious injury. Nasri has still been able to kick a ball about.
Ham, sorry for the misunderstanding, I was making a pre-injury Manu and Nasri comparison. Don't get me wrong, I love Lanzini, but as I said Nasri's record speaks for itself. But what a brilliant pair they would make in midfield. ;ok ;scarf
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In his 22 appearances from the bench he's scored 5, one every 51 minutes.
Hernandez came on at half time but didn't get a shot on goal until he scored in the 84th minute. We didn't have an attempt on goal in the second half until Nasri came on and the first shot in 63rd minute was from Arnautovic.
Arnie has scored all his 18 league goals when he's been in the starting XI as a striker, if you ignore the games he played as a winger and his substitute appearances its a goal every 172 minutes.
I'm waiting for the spin cycle to finish...
Just noticed the significant improvement after he (Arnie) went off on Saturday
The significant improvement began in the 59th minute when Nasri came on for Noble, not sure whether Perez for Arnie made much difference.
Chicharito for Antonio in 45th minute was quite important too.
;wink
Nasri was the difference on Saturday.
Or there’s the bit where Arnie went off, and 7 mins later we were back in the game.
The performance of a team is a complex mesh of tactics, personnel, individual strengths/weaknesses, decision making of 22 individuals, team formation, reaction/change of tactics or responsibilities of the opposing players in response to a scoreline, substitution, or decision on game management.
We went 3-1 down because we were pushing for another goal, and Huddersfield took advantage. It can be argued that was because of the shift in tactics, not personnel.
You are trying to find evidence for your theory that but I don't think you can. Not enough to convince me, anyway ;biggrin
Nasri - Lanzini - Anderson
Hernandez
Surely we can get that out on the pitch a bit more as I think the three behind the striker will get the best out of Hernandez. He needs passes in behind the defence to run onto & cut backs.
Also, it wasn't just the Hernandez assist that was great... it was the way he won the ball just before this goal.
I honestly see him as a much better option than Lanzini
Nasri's record vis a vis Manu speaks for itself.
The only possible negative is his attitude although hopefully, given his age, he has mellowed a bit and realises that he could become a fan's favourite with us.
Don't get me wrong, I love Lanzini, but as I said Nasri's record speaks for itself.
But what a brilliant pair they would make in midfield. ;ok
;scarf