I dont know how long you have to be a Hammers fan before the emotional immunity kicks in but I never stressed once throughout the game (hence the 3-2, 4-3 quips). I've become immune to being upset if we lose or play badly and its been like that for a while. Hence, no stress and no concern we'd lose and a 4-3 result showed I had no need to stress about it anyway ;wahoo
Psychologically, we perhaps are one of the teams that could easily be on the beach. Andersen has adjusted well but at the same time it does take a lot of players plenty of time to fully adjust and perhaps hes just feeling it pave and intensity wise
Pelle should be judged after the TF window and next season when essentially the team will be his and he would've had sufficient time to shape it to his style.
I personally have no issue with him and also plenty of faith he'll do a great job. I very much doubt there's anyone else out there who we could get who's better qualified and experienced anyway
Substitutions were key, especially Nasri for Noble and of course Chicharito for Antonio. Not sure if Perez for Arnie made much difference. Still can't work out why we do so much better against the top teams in terms of performance.
If not having much luck, I'd like to see Anderson in a central role. If we do this, we'd probably need to sub Nasri, move Anderson to the middle and bring on Diangana or Masuaku as a LW.
Some may have thought I'm crazy for picking Balbuena over Diop but i think yesterday's events showed why Diop should've sat that one out. I also knew Nasri would do well. Since he's come in ive preferred him to Lanzini.
My highlight was on the Serbian stream commentary, after the winner. See if u can spot it in the below paraphrasing! Don't try and translate it I googled some Serbian randomness.
Gooooal. Es rinka dai budite u toku sa svim sportskim dešavanjima na jednom mestu, i nikad ne pustite ni jednu Chicarito vama bitnu utakmicu ni fox in the box jednom rinka.
I think the performance was very similar to a lot of our games this season; we seem to turn it on for segments, instead of being consistently good over the course of the game.
There have been so many occasions like this. Palace at home, where we went from 1-0 down to 3-1 up in 20 mins. Burnley at home, Cardiff at home (0-0 to 3-0 in 15 mins), Fulham away (good 10 mins saw us go 2-0 up), Fulham at home (1-0 to 2-1).
We have had a few consistently good performances, probably as many terrible as good, we seem to often float in between. Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Newcastle away, but I think we play in segments; which obviously shows we have undoubted talent, to take the game away from the opposition in the blink of an eye, but we don’t often seem to get a grip on the game to the end from the start.
Then you get some games where we look unbreachable at the back, some where we defend for our lives & throw things in the way of everything & others where we look like the whole back four are 18 year old debutants.
Huddersfield were the better team in that game until the 75th minute. The main positive is that we only had to turn it up for that small part of the game to get 3 goals.
It was brilliant to follow the game as it went to 2-3, but what was before was so frustrating. But the West Ham way is what we want, & that is what it was. Farce followed by class.
It shows we have some spirit coming from back from 2 goals behind to go on and win . The shape seemed wrong too much space in midfield and too big gap between defence and midfield so many times it was 3 vs 3 or 2 vs 2 at the back . Still it was good to see Nasri looking quality when he came on . Arnautovic however did not look good and he really did not do enough when given a chamce
I thought many were booing at Perez replacing Arnie! There should be a variation of booing at those going off (BOOOO!!) and not wanting his replacement (NO!! NO!! etc), but this may be a step too far for the boo boys...
4 articles/features on Man City, 4 on Wolves/Man U, the other 2 PL games each get a match report. Then we have EFL League 1 and 2, MLS, Scottish football, European matches, and something about a player in NZ futsal.
The Hammers have formed a fine backbone on the pitch in Lukasz Fabianski, Issa Diop, Declan Rice, Mark Noble and Manuel Lanzini
Lanzini has started three games but apparently he now is part of a "backbone".
Arnautovic’s record of 18 goals in 45 Premier League starts for West Ham is respectable, but Javier Hernandez now has 15 goals in 28 league starts for the Hammers.
A bit misleading,
While it is true that Hernandez has 15 goals and has started 28 times in the league he has only scored 10 goals as a starter with the other 5 from his 22 appearances off the bench.
Arnautovic has scored all 18 league goals as a starter but not a single goal in seven substitute appearances.
Just goes to show that anyone can write nonsense on the interweb.
Unless we are prepared to sell Arnie for less than the Chinese offered then I don't see him going anywhere no matter how much the fans boo.
Just not a fan of Ogbonna at all, he just isn't good enough
Yes Diop hasn't looked good either, but you saw just HOW good he was when he had a proper partner, plus he has the excuse that he's still learning whereas Ogbonna is a 30 year old defender who's got Italy caps
Also I think this game highlighted the need to buy a dynamic central midfielder to partner Rice in the summer, he was woefully exposed as he is the only player who really breaks up the play in this team
Mrs G I guess Pelle needs to get them to concentrate more on not going behind so often. Still a worrying fact that Fab has made the most saves in the PL this season which suggests a) that he’s playing very well but b) we are letting opponents have too many shots.
Even though I don’t think Arnie has done much wrong since coming back into the squad following that China stuff, is there a possibility the players are not keen on him playing given he wanted to leave in January? Just noticed the significant improvement after he went off on Saturday. Might just be coincidence, & we were just going for it with nothing to lose, but he wasn’t involved in that comeback, & surely it would be natural for team-mates to think ‘you don’t want to be here’. We’ve hardly played well in any of the time he has been on the pitch since all that stuff started.
Hernandez is a funny one. We all know when he isn’t scoring he doesn’t do much, but he got two on Saturday, was poor at Cardiff (so were the whole team), won the penalty for the second goal against Newcastle, then there was his involvement in the Fulham game with the equaliser, he didn’t play against City...
He does seem to get involved in stuff (some of it bad, like the diving), but I think he is the one we may as well play between now & the summer because he may be our only proper striker come the summer. He has got some important goals this season & he tends to always get key goals. Not third or fourth goals in 4-0 wins but winners, equalisers, opens the scoring etc. He averages a goal every 165 minutes this season, only Lucas Perez has a better record (128). Which also begs the question whether we should give Perez one last chance to stake a claim in the final 7 games?
I think, a bit like Nolan, we accept he doesn’t offer too much outside the box but his in box poaching & movement is first class & for a club like us surely a goalscorer is invaluable.
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Psychologically, we perhaps are one of the teams that could easily be on the beach. Andersen has adjusted well but at the same time it does take a lot of players plenty of time to fully adjust and perhaps hes just feeling it pave and intensity wise
Pelle should be judged after the TF window and next season when essentially the team will be his and he would've had sufficient time to shape it to his style.
I personally have no issue with him and also plenty of faith he'll do a great job. I very much doubt there's anyone else out there who we could get who's better qualified and experienced anyway
Mark Noble became only the third player to score 40 Premier League goals for West Ham after Paolo Di Canio (47) and Carlton Cole (41).
;bowdown Nobes
Still can't work out why we do so much better against the top teams in terms of performance.
Gooooal. Es rinka dai budite u toku sa svim sportskim dešavanjima na jednom mestu, i nikad ne pustite ni jednu Chicarito vama bitnu utakmicu ni fox in the box jednom rinka.
There have been so many occasions like this. Palace at home, where we went from
1-0 down to 3-1 up in 20 mins. Burnley at home, Cardiff at home (0-0 to 3-0 in 15 mins), Fulham away (good 10 mins saw us go 2-0 up), Fulham at home (1-0 to 2-1).
We have had a few consistently good performances, probably as many terrible as good, we seem to often float in between. Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Newcastle away, but I think we play in segments; which obviously shows we have undoubted talent, to take the game away from the opposition in the blink of an eye, but we don’t often seem to get a grip on the game to the end from the start.
Then you get some games where we look unbreachable at the back, some where we defend for our lives & throw things in the way of everything & others where we look like the whole back four are 18 year old debutants.
Huddersfield were the better team in that game until the 75th minute. The main positive is that we only had to turn it up for that small part of the game to get 3 goals.
It was brilliant to follow the game as it went to 2-3, but what was before was so frustrating. But the West Ham way is what we want, & that is what it was. Farce followed by class.
4 articles/features on Man City, 4 on Wolves/Man U, the other 2 PL games each get a match report. Then we have EFL League 1 and 2, MLS, Scottish football, European matches, and something about a player in NZ futsal.
Was it all a dream ;puzzled
Quite possibly.
;biggrin
While it is true that Hernandez has 15 goals and has started 28 times in the league he has only scored 10 goals as a starter with the other 5 from his 22 appearances off the bench.
Arnautovic has scored all 18 league goals as a starter but not a single goal in seven substitute appearances.
Just goes to show that anyone can write nonsense on the interweb.
Unless we are prepared to sell Arnie for less than the Chinese offered then I don't see him going anywhere no matter how much the fans boo.
Just not a fan of Ogbonna at all, he just isn't good enough
Yes Diop hasn't looked good either, but you saw just HOW good he was when he had a proper partner, plus he has the excuse that he's still learning whereas Ogbonna is a 30 year old defender who's got Italy caps
Also I think this game highlighted the need to buy a dynamic central midfielder to partner Rice in the summer, he was woefully exposed as he is the only player who really breaks up the play in this team
PS. What was that Chicarito high step goal celebration all about?
Hernandez is a funny one. We all know when he isn’t scoring he doesn’t do much, but he got two on Saturday, was poor at Cardiff (so were the whole team), won the penalty for the second goal against Newcastle, then there was his involvement in the Fulham game with the equaliser, he didn’t play against City...
He does seem to get involved in stuff (some of it bad, like the diving), but I think he is the one we may as well play between now & the summer because he may be our only proper striker come the summer. He has got some important goals this season & he tends to always get key goals. Not third or fourth goals in 4-0 wins but winners, equalisers, opens the scoring etc. He averages a goal every 165 minutes this season, only Lucas Perez has a better record (128). Which also begs the question whether we should give Perez one last chance to stake a claim in the final 7 games?
I think, a bit like Nolan, we accept he doesn’t offer too much outside the box but his in box poaching & movement is first class & for a club like us surely a goalscorer is invaluable.