The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

tomkinsworldclass

Moyes will do a reasonable job, he has experience, a good squad and the club will over compensate in January. The question will be what happens in the summer and what is the overall strategy/vision for the club, etc, etc. Stuart Pearce will be a good appointment and someone alot of fans will like having in the set up.

TheMadcapLaughs

It must be really difficult for an ardent feminist such as Lady Brady to reconcile her views with working for peddlers of soft porn and writing tittle tattle in The Sun. It must be hell going into work every day. What a gal.

Cuz1

MrsGrey, thanks you have put it so much better than I could, thats what I meant

grey_til_I_dye

I think Moyes is in a difficult position with us from the off.

It is clear that much of the sports press would love nothing more than another 'Moyes falls on his face' story.

Where other mangers might have been allowed some early leeway (e.g had it been Dyche, and we'd lost our first few games under him, I'm sure he would have been 'facing a Herculean task', and that it 'will take time for the players to understand what he wants') should Moyes get off to anything less than a decent start I suspect the knives (already out) will start plunging.

When you think of the free ride managers like Sparky get, it doesn't seem fair.

And poor old Tony Pulis had to tell the press he was under pressure after his worst ever start to a season, as they hadn't seemed to notice.

MrsGrey

Cuz1 said:

gone are the days where you can actually go to work and say something as banter and get blown out of proportion,

If you mean 'gone are they days when you can say something sexist' and not get pulled up on it ... Brilliant, say I.

Of course, they haven't really gone, have they. Sadly.

baracks_a_hammer

Twc

I happen to think that Stuart Pearce in a managerial position of any description is extremely poor. Just like other former players who played with passion and aggression like Roy Keane and Dicks.

My scepticism of Moyes’ appointment might have been tempered slightly had he chosen an alternative right hand person

jay_in_cpt

I Agree with that comment Grey, Our new manager has to prove the many doubters wrong, I so hope he does it for our team, nothing would make me more happy than being totally wrong with my view...
Only Difference IMO tho between Pulis , Dyche & Hughes is none have been a bit let's say "poor" in his last 3 positions, regardless of clubs, if we comparing WBA , Burnley , Stoke & let's say Sunderland..
But that's it for me, I've accepted the fact in his appointment and hope he can make things the way we all want..

thornburyiron

I doubt that Guardiola and Mourinho between them could do anything to make Sunderland better let alone Moyes.

Pearces_Left_Foot

If moyes gets the defence sorted and gets us a system to play we have decent attacking players I think we will be ok . I hope a decent fitness coach is being appointed and I hope we are better drilled and all the players know what they are doing at set plays especially corners. I hope he takes his chance to show that he can be a good manager again . There is not a lot between the teams in the bottom half of the table if he can squeeze more out of the team we should be mid table

claretandbluesky

Moyes has been given his chance and I would imagine is very grateful to the owners who I think are taking the real gamble. I don't think many expect Moyes to succeed as it is hard to find many people who consider this an inspired appointment. However for him his stock is rock bottom at present and so to fail will simply leave him where he was, I don't think the owners will fare so well however and come late season if we are in the drop zone I think all anger will be directed at them, I think they have really put their head on the line, they may end up deserving of a round of applause through having the courage of their conviction in spite of the weight of objection or having to recognise they probably are in the wrong job as everyone else could predict something they couldn't, and they repeated the same mistake as they did with Grant.

There are real similarities in that both managers were brought into save a club from relegation, both took the respective club down and The Dave's have now employed both, will the outcome be different this time, I hope so because you know what is said about doing the same thing repeatedly but expecting a different result.

As for David Moyes, I hope he proves myself and all the other doubters wrong and that we all end up having to recognise our lack of vision, I will certainly be very happy to eat that particular slice of humble pie.

Good luck David ;ok

thornburyiron

C&B I don't think Grant was brought in to save us from relegation. He joined pre season and had been a successful manager at Chelsea. Trouble was he had the same problem as Slav in that he couldn't get them to do what he wanted or more worryingly couldn't, because he didn't know himself, tell them what he wanted.

claretandbluesky

Sorry Thorn I meant the previous club, He was bought in to save Portsmouth as Moyes was hoped to steer Sunderland away from perpetual relegation scraps, my point was both took their clubs down and we have now bought both back into the Premiership. I am hoping we don't find out again that taking on someone who just failed to do what you are asking them to do is not a good plan. It's almost the opposite of Big Sam as he has been employed now at Christmas the past two seasons as he has saved someone previously in Sunderland and Palace, I expect him to be courted again.

Cuz1

MrsGrey said:

Cuz1 said:

gone are the days where you can actually go to work and say something as banter and get blown out of proportion,

If you mean 'gone are they days when you can say something sexist' and not get pulled up on it ... Brilliant, say I.

Of course, they haven't really gone, have they. Sadly.

No didn’t mean anything sexist and apologise if that’s our it came out meant banter between friends not sexist or bullying, just imo think the Moyes thing got out of hand taken out of context I don’t believe Moyes thought he’d done wrong at first and in future will choose his words

MrsGrey

I think he will too.

re your earlier comment, I just wasn't sure what you meant ;ok

Cuz1

Glad I’ve clarified it then maybe I should think too

thornburyiron

Cuz if we were capable of reasoned rational thinking at all times we wouldn't be Hammers fans.

OldCastleSwift

I get where Cuz is coming from. I work in a Naval Base where there's a lot of old school ex-Matelots, who address each other in pretty industrial terms. It's what they've known for years and see nothing wrong with it.

But there are a lot of civvies there too, and they're not used to that kind of relationship and are more sensitive about being called things that I can't articulate on here.

In my experience the workplace has become a more sensitive place, and people seem to be very quick to be offended, and quite often on other people's behalf.

Cuz1

True thorn

SuzanneClaret

;ok OCS as long as no one is hurt by it and if they are it is recognised and dealt with.

EXETERHAMMER

Moyes is certainly not my choice, but why should that matter.
I will get behind him like many have said, and hope he gets results. I still am of the opinion that the players are as much at fault as Slav. However, new era, new manager, good luck David Moyes. ;scarf

Cuz1

Ocs maybe that’s where it came from being an ex sailor 81-95 lol

Hammerwombat

So far from my choice, but honestly my problem with losing Slaven was who would we replace him with.

Good luck DM, I wish you success.
I hope you are more Slaven than he was.
Less Avram than Avram
Maybe a bit Allardyce mixed with Zola, dare I suggest Allerdici.
A large helping of Harry, with Bonzo sprinkles.
Lyall and Greenwood on the side.
WHTID
;scarf

Lukerz

Lukerz

The great part is that he has almost two weeks to make his mark. The team will be well prepared for Watford.

chicagohammer

Is that supposed to be orange bibs vs yellow ones, if so, I think I can see the problem we have ;wink

Cuz1

I still don’t think there’s any great part to having Moyes here, well can’t think of any we will stay up but believed that anyway but only because there are a lot of poor teams around us

chicagohammer

Assuming the other cooler is out of sight, it strikes me that we need to narrow the goal mouth in training.

Is David trying to improve morale by making sure that everyone gets to score... ;wink

steve

Like lots of others have said did not want moyes ,but like it or not ,he is now part of our family so I wish him all the .............. ;weep ;nonono ...........sorry I just cant say it ,perhaps its to early will try again in a day or two ;biggrin

Adam

Nobes playing in trousers and long sleeves? Tut, tut.

Rice has the right idea.

Cuz1

Nobes is older it gets to all of us these young uns even go out at night in winter in t-shirts