The Arsenal (A) Carabao Cup Match Thread 19.12.17 19:45

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  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Grey, for me its not all about team selection. I wasn't too upset with the starting xi (except for Cresswell at right back). It was the attitude and the defensive approach. We had nothing to lose by going for it, instead we went out on a whimper. That's the disappointing thing for me ;ok
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Was there any team in the QF's that put out a full strength team?

    The Bristol City manager described the game as their least important game this month.

    Twist, you keep going on as though Moyes didn't want to win, but I don't think that is true.

    He did what every manager does in this comp; gave some key players a rest, and some fringe players a game. He hoped that would be enough, and it wasn't.

    Slizzy, saying Giroud doesn't regularly start for Arsenal, so is not first team, is a bit disingenuous. He starts regularly for France.

    Teams outside the top 6 could only dream of fielding Walcott Welbeck and Giroud as a front 3.

    Did the Bristol manager say that ? I thought it was their team Captain that said that.
  • Tomw85Tomw85
    TwistandShout said:

    Grey, for me its not all about team selection. I wasn't too upset with the starting xi (except for Cresswell at right back). It was the attitude and the defensive approach. We had nothing to lose by going for it, instead we went out on a whimper. That's the disappointing thing for me ;ok

    We made 3 attacking subs and earlier than DM normally makes them so I view that as at least trying to get something from the game.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Arnie had about 7 minutes.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Yeold

    Yeah, you're right. I read the BBC article, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42404704, which started off about Johnson and what he said. I hadn't noticed they had changed 'speakers'.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Bristol made 1 change for the game from their normal team and that was th goalie
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Guess the Bristol lads don’t get to play Man Utd that often though
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    thorn

    Think I heard that they have so many injuries, they didn't have a lot left to choose from.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Were they down to the bare bones, I wondered where arry got up to nowadays
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    grey_til_I_dye said:


    Slizzy, saying Giroud doesn't regularly start for Arsenal, so is not first team, is a bit disingenuous. He starts regularly for France.

    Teams outside the top 6 could only dream of fielding Walcott Welbeck and Giroud as a front 3.

    Grey what France do is of little consequence how AFC normally line up this season and the facts are this....

    Ground has started 1 PL game
    Walcott has started 0 PL games
    Welbeck has started 6 PL games

    There is a reason for this, other players are normally getting in ahead of them, week after week.

    When you look at AFC’s normal PL Side it was essentially their reserves, which was my point and that you’ll never have a better chance to beat them right now.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Slizzy

    And my point was that 'reserves' doesn't really reflect the quality of many of the players on show for Arsenal in the game.

    As to what France do being of little consequence, for me, it goes to show the quality of Giroud (who has got on in 15 PL games and made 24 competitive appearances.)

    Unless you think France are a poor team with little choice of forwards...
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Grey I think you're missing the point.....

    Nobody is questioning they're all good players, internationals at that.

    But it wasn't their first team lining up and the stats prove that.

    There are reasons why those three have only started 7 games between them in the PL out of a possible 57......They're not currently considered 1st eleven players.

    Back to my point, it was their reserves/2nd string/whatever you want to call it.

  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Slizzy

    It's just semantics.

    Were we playing against a full side of regular PL starters?

    No.

    Were we playing against a number of players who would waltz straight in to our first XI?

    Yes, imo.

    So, were we playing against the best side Arsenal could put out?

    No.

    Were we playing against a side that still had lots more quality than we could play as our best starting XI?

    Yes, imo.
  • imagelostimagelost
    edited December 2017
    Strange rest our players
    Way this feels down
    Go down with nothing
    Let’s hope it orks out
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Prioritising the league game went well...
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    TwistandShout said:

    Prioritising the league game went well...

    And an apology to you twist humble pie you was right there good call
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Twist, but in my defence we are West Ham
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Grey if you think that AFC side was better than ours on paper then we will never agree.

    Originally you dismissed the fact this was their reserves, well it was.

    Their starting eleven had made 29 PL starting appearances between them, ours had made well over 100
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Cuz1 said:

    TwistandShout said:

    Prioritising the league game went well...

    And an apology to you twist humble pie you was right there good call
    I wish i was wrong, Cuz ;ok
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    TwistandShout said:

    Cuz1 said:

    TwistandShout said:

    Prioritising the league game went well...

    And an apology to you twist humble pie you was right there good call
    I wish i was wrong, Cuz ;ok
    For once I do mate
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