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As for the Leicester game, the club has a clear public policy on flags/banners as well as on other aspects of behaviour, penalties and sanctions Vhttp://www.whufc.com/new-stadium/visiting-london-stadium
Specifically, banners regs are:
London Stadium allows supporters to display flags and banners on West Ham United match days provided that:
The banner is manufactured to British Standards and has been certified as fire retardant
The banner is no larger than two metres by two metres. However, we will consider requests to bring larger banners into the home section when they are made in advance by emailing [email protected]
The banner is displayed in a suitable location and does not obstruct commercial, venue or event owner branding, LED panels or seats in use. Banners may be displayed in areas pre-agreed with West Ham United, and at the discretion of the club. Please contact [email protected] for more information.
The content of the banner is not derogatory or offensive to any individual or group. Defamatory, political or offensive slogans will not be Banners in support of the team and players are welcomed.
Kindly note that flag poles are not permitted
I’ve been a hammer for about 65 years and was a season ticket holder for a number of them and for a good number of years travelled to all away games too including several European trips.
I’ve seen about 5 relegations and don’t want to see that go to 6.
If you can tell me of all the managers available who would be a better short term choice than Moyes I’d be interested in hearing it.
http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170162&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
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I'm going to wait and see for the facts to emerge.
It's not that long ago everyone got their knickers in a twist about some STs being revoked when it later transpired that wasn't the case.
Not most peoples style i wouldn’t think but some will go this far.
I think every club has a certain element within them unfortunately and too many stories over the years of players cars vandalised etc . I think that element of our club actually vandalised Payet's car if I recall correctly, which is much the same thing, his attitude was appalling and if you want to chant, wave a flag in or out to express your view that seems fair enough, but this other stuff is just unacceptable.
The owner of the flag hung at Sully mansion wasn’t even there when it was done, the club know who he is though.
They were told that he and another had lost their ST and were banned for 3 years from home away tickets, this is what their side of the story.
Dave Walker from SD&CC went on a massive rant from Sunday about how Toxic the fan base is right now and generally defending the owners as well as ridiculing the ban story. He doubted big time they actually lost anything and went with the club line (Dave Sullivan Jnr) that it was a misunderstanding and everything including the away points was put back. He laid into various people suggesting the club were lying about that
Today he’s issued his own apology to the fan and flag owner he took to task, turns out these fans did have their ST revoked 3 year ban and loss of all away ticket points.
He took the side of Dave Sully Jnr and his club contacts, he may not be so quick to do that again
If I owned West Ham and they did that to me, you could bet your last dollar I'd ban them from the ground.
But I'm a vindictive menopausal hot mess so I might just have dealt with him myself, face to face...
There's clearly more to this than meets the eye.
How many people are telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
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I think 100% now that the move was based entirely on personal greed. It was never about the good of West Ham as a football club and definitely, definitely nothing to do with the supporters. It was a commercial decision pure and simple, and not one to benefit the club and fans, but one to personally enrich the board. I think they have been rumbled, and I can absolutely understand the level of animosity now present amongst supporters who go week in, week out, home and away, and probably spend a large proportion of their wages doing it. What has brought this to a tipping point is the absolute rubbish football being served up week in week out, but it`s not the players or the manager baring the brunt (which would seem the obvious outlet) but the board. West Ham have had rubbish teams, played rubbish football and been relegated regularly since I have supported them, it`s what makes the highs so wonderful. What we had though was an identity and The Boleyn. The Boleyn has gone (for sound reasons so I thought) our identity is being chipped away and the dreams we were sold are fading and dying (oh dear). That`s the difference, in the past they were our dreams, personal to each and every one of us, we all had our own different levels of expectation. Avoid relegation, a decent cup run, beat the Spuds this year, win at Anfield. When I really think about it I never wanted next level, never really thought about it. But I was sold it, or rather mis-sold it, a bit like PPI. It`s something I never really wanted or asked for but I was suckered. What do we do when we feel cheated, robbed? We lash out. The football isn`t the problem, we`ve been there before, the problem is the board sold us a lie. The rubbish football is irrelevant, but what it has done is raised the questions: "Why the hell have we moved to a 60,000 seat athletics stadium?" and "Why are we now called West Ham London".
From my perspective it all seems so pointless now, I was sold something (the next level) that I never really wanted and certainly never asked for. And that is all down to the board. The blighters.
"But I was sold it, or rather mis-sold it, ---------- "
You mean, a bit like £350million per week for the NHS ;biggrin
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I find myself slightly bemused (beyond my resting state of generally befuddled, that is.)
I didn't think the board had promised anything, beyond trying to improve the club.
From where they got us, I think they have.
The football has been poor for a while now, but when you look at the (at least theoretical) quality of the squad now compared to when they took over, it's hard to argue that the standard of players (at least theoretically) hasn't improved.
The board get derided for being unambitious, until they express some ambition, and then they are derided as fools or liars.
What I would like to see them deliver is regular mid-table mediocrity, (which, from where they got us would be the next level, imo) before I start worrying about further levels.
I don't see how people can argue that they haven't overseen the signing of players good enough to achieve that. Most fans, it seems to me, seem to think that as a team we are vastly underachieving with the players we have available.
They did the only thing they could have done in the circumstances, which was to get rid of Slav.
As to whether Moyes is the man to get the squad playing better, time will tell.
So, I fail to share your attitude towards the board, and consider our current miserable state more of the same in the generally disappointing lot of a Hammers fan's supporting life.
And sorry Grey, meant to say that from a traditional die hard supporters perspective, and from a traditional working class football club perspective (not a commercial venture perspective) we are in a worse position than when they took over, so no, I don`t think they have improved us, on the narrow definition, of simply being a football club.
a) I'm a traditional die hard supporter (if 47/56 years counts for that)
b) I'm working class
and you don't speak for my perspective.
By all means, be as disappointed in them as you want, but don't assume that others have to share your viewpoint, or that you can speak for a class/group.
Since you haven't defined what you mean by 'simply being a football club',
I have no real idea what you think that means, outside the standard definition.
For me, I would be happy to be able to really look forward to every match day and not have that feeling of despair which seems to be obligatory every post match.
We have always been an unpredictable club but lately have got to the stage where I don't expect us to get anything from the games. Even when 2-0 up against Palace I just knew we would throw it away.
During the Payet season I just so enjoyed looking at the teams around the top of the league to see if we could finish higher than them. Now we are back to my desparately hoping the sides around us at the bottom lose.
Surely it's not too much to ask that I am not dreading every match from almost the start of the season almost every year.
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