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West Ham and Newcastle Raided in tax investigation....

Just seen this, seems we are under investigation for Transfer dealings and have been raided this morning...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-and-west-ham-raided-by-hmrc-after-transfers-investigation-a7702521.html

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  • To be fair, there has been a lot of comments about how criminal our transfers have been...

    ;yercoat
    MrsGreyNEoldironExpat_HammeruposWhitehorsehammerchicagohammerVorselaarhammer
  • Wanna bet that when more details come out and the press can write a fuller report, they bring up old problems we have had at the Stadium, like crowd trouble?
  • This could be the cheery on the Cake of a great season...
  • Lol we can't even do the bad transfers properly
    Expat_HammerVorselaarhammerSuzanneClaretSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
  • Never ever a dull moment
  • Not sure how 'suspected income tax & national insurance fraud' relates to transfer dealings...
  • Maybe Rose has something to do with it....
  • I'm going to go out of a limb here and say we've done nothing wrong.

    Because I'd be amazed if after the Tevez affair the club would do anything that was even approaching illegal.
    alderzSuzanneClaretNEoldiron
  • As a digression, those HMRC officers deployed in France wouldn't have been so quickly deployed had Britain not been part of the EU. Just an observation.
  • Of course, had Britain not been in the EU, it might have slowed down some of our transfers, giving some people more time to consider.
  • Yeah, but the request probably went in 3 months ago and they just got around to it. French bureaucracy is appalling.
  • Dan Roan on the case again ;clap
    MrsGrey
  • I'd imagine it is one of these cases where tax lawyers swear what they are offering is a legal exploitation of a loophole, and HMRC beg to differ.

    Seems extremely unlikely that two clubs would get involved in deliberate fraud, given how closely their accounts are scrutinised.
    SuzanneClaret
  • Twist ;ok

    Comment wasn't aimed at you, but the headline in the Independent.
  • Let's just pay over the £30m fine and move on
    HamstewVorselaarhammerSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
  • Dodgy stuff at West Ham... Never ;whistle
  • Speculation on other sites that it points towards specific agents rather than the clubs
  • If it's not aimed at the clubs, could some of those articles be considered as slander? (i.e. Mr Roan's).
  • Allardyce > Ravel Morrison > Tape. Gottem
    TwistandShout_I_love_AllardyceMoojor
  • Hopefully the results of our games where we fielded our suspect signings will be annulled. We might find ourselves close to a champions league spot as a result
    chicagohammerWhitehorsehammerSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
  • If it's not aimed at the clubs, could some of those articles be considered as slander? (i.e. Mr Roan's).

    The couple of articles I have seen have been careful not to accuse WHU of anything, and report quite factually on what HMRC has said/done. So, if they are all like that... probably not.
  • As I understand one guy has been arrested at Newcastle, maybe it's just about the transfers his done..

    But I can think of any deals we've had with Newcastle...?
  • West Ham and Newcastle are not the only clubs allegedly involved in murky deals, using offshore accounts and anonymous shell companies. Too many big names and clubs are implicated. See the links here https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/

    I have no time for any organisation trying to dodge tax as most of us pay our fair share and certainly can't hire accountants and lawyers or create opaque shell companies or find other ways of dodging taxes. Once football Clubs represented the community but now they are big business, but must not forget that tax dodging on their part means that either we the supporters pay more for the same social rights or accept cuts. Hope someone at the FA and Clubs grasps that.

    That said, despite the massive Der Spiegel leak there have been no persecutions as yet. If the eventual prosecutions are successful that would serious questions about whether some individuals are 'fit and proper persons to control a football Club. In extreme cases it could lead to heavy fines, bans and even points deductions, but at the moment we are a long way away from that.
  • pengeman, the info so far about this particular case is that it relates to individuals' actions, not the clubs'
  • I'm guessing part of our forfeit will be to employ Mr H Rednapp as Director of Sport and Finance ;whistle
    MrsGrey
  • edited April 26

    As I understand one guy has been arrested at Newcastle, maybe it's just about the transfers his done..



    But I can think of any deals we've had with Newcastle...?

    Maybe the common denominator isn't a transfer between the 2, but a French club we have both had dealings with (separately).

    No doubt all will become clear in due course.
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